WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

CoD's I see the point of being in-character, but why on earth just that point given? One could have pointed out the pompous nobility in hundreds of ways. I still think we lack an explanation for it. If CoD makes a good answer to that, I'm ready to wipe him from my suspicion list, if not, I'm keeping him there.

Btw. CoD, what you say about being a cobbler makes a lot of sense. I do not believe you to be the cobbler.

Hopefully I do not misunderstand what you have said. I will make an attempt at explaining myself.

Yes, I could have gone about the nobility angle much differently. And, probably, I should have. But, being the first post, there was not much else to play with. Now, I did say that I did not approve of (or implied, which would also be a mistake) what the wolves had done to our poor Mods. But, nobles (and other peoples, too) have often seen admriable traits in their enemies...something to be commended and perhaps emulated. That was all I was doing.

Certainly, Nogrod, as a General you can understand the emulation of useful/clever tactics.

And Boro, I only backed off of Durelin and Farael because there was nothing left to go on. Had they continued with any sort of banter, I might have found more cause. But my attention was turned away from contemplating them more fully as I had to focus on defending my own actions.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by CaptainofDespair

Yes, I could have gone about the nobility angle much differently. And, probably, I should have. But, being the first post, there was not much else to play with. Now, I did say that I did not approve of (or implied, which would also be a mistake) what the wolves had done to our poor Mods. But, nobles (and other peoples, too) have often seen admriable traits in their enemies...something to be commended and perhaps emulated. That was all I was doing.

I'm not sure if we have now understood each other... What I found suspicious in your first post was not that you said the villains were well versed but that you could very easily be seen as trying to generate the feeling of you being the Seer with all this talk of knowledge you have not available to us commons.

To lynch me on suspicion of being cobbler or wolf or what have you, without any definitive evidence (with the opinions seemingly being driven by my pompous aristocratic comments), is but the first step in handing over our lives to the wolves.

Definitive evidence on Day1? It's a rare treat, I must say.

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To add a little.

Today I will not be voting for Lommy, Boro, Durelin or Di.

Lommy had to vote early and she did what she could: look at the overall posting before her vote - she tried to make a reason for her vote - and even if I agree it was a bad one, it sure doesn't merit lynching. This doesn't say she could not be the wolf, but only that I can see no good reasons for her lynching toDay.

Boro felt strange and hasty in the beginning of the Day but has both gotten somewhat back to his level and given a good explanation. I would hate to lose a vocal and insightful player as him this early with no good reasons.

I also agree with Boro about Durelin, after the few unsettling first posts she seems to be productive and helpful. Surely we can't afford losing her with no good reasons.

Diamond really made me worried in the beginning too, but now she seems to be making very good points.

As I've always said... In doubt vote for those who do not contribute because they don't help the village but may be devils in disguise.

But we still have time to come up with some reasons to vote.

[CaptainofDespair]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I'm not sure if we have now understood each other... What I found suspicious in your first post was not that you said the villains were well versed but that you could very easily be seen as trying to generate the feeling of you being the Seer with all this talk of knowledge you have not available to us commons.

I understand what you meant, now.

No, I was not trying to generate feelings that I was the Seer. I was only playing the aristocratic notion that they are better than the landless, titleless commoners.

And since our time is growing short til the Day will close, I shall put forth my own suspicions.

I am still suspicious of Naria and Thinlomien, as well as Farael and Durelin. Obviously, Thinlomien voted for me rather quickly. Granted, she did not understand my sense of humor on the matter. But still, misunderstandings are a poor reason to vote for someone, and so quickly too. And her reasoning of it being a 'clumsy defense' was groundless. I had reason to defend Durelin. I was only interjecting and pointing out my own haughty ways as a member of the beloved aristocracy. But my suspicions are towards Naria, Farael, and Durelin do not amount to much more than curiosity at this point. Naria, for sure, has joined in the assault of my noble character. Farael has said little since his first posts. And Durelin has not done enough to garner suspicion in my eyes.

As such, I am inclined to vote for Thinlomien. She is the only one who has merited it thus far, to me. Though, I would certainly hate it for a new revelation to emerge after I have voted.

++Thinlomien

[Diamond18]

Di suspects Ang now as he has voted for her...

Well, not entirely. I began to suspect him when he made his response to Lommy's suspicion of CoD, and no post he has made since has done anything to soothe my concerns. He could have voted for anyone in the same way he voted for me (not suspecting as much as others but voting for some vaguely stated reason) and it would have set off the same alarams.

Of course, I won't claim to be immune to retaliatory voting... as, being an ordo, whenever someone goes after me I get the distinct feeling I'm being treated as canon fodder. I have, of course, been wrong on many occasions. But in this case the doubt was already planted and growing by the time he voted for me, so I'm inclined to trust my instincts more.

Right now no one else is giving me the same bad vibes.

[Diamond18]

Durelin, I think Rikae is saying she believes CoD to be the Cobbler.

I don't like the CoD bandwagon, personally. I see little in his behavior that I find wolfish or cobbleresque. I suppose I should carefully reread his posts to see what others are seeing, but really, I already smell something fishy and what I'm catching is a whiif of:

++Anguirel

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Boro

You have correctly noticed that I have not been my usual self...due to various factors such as lack of time, lack of sleep, and lack of substantial stuff to comment on. Honestly, everything I've said is everything I felt was worth commenting on...the rest seems rather typical Day 1 junkishness that has been more prevelant than I'm used to seeing. I'm going to have to vote sooner than I anticipated as well.

Ugh, I just really don't like this. Taking observations of suspicion and defending them in such a light way as "oh, but of course...so smart of you to observe" doesn't sit well with me. I like it better when people are more straightforward in being defensive.

Probably entirely baseless, and more something that just bothers me than wolfishness.

And Nogrod, if I was retaliating, I would just say that I was. It just so happens that my suspicions have led me toward people who have voiced suspicion of me...but just think about how many times people voice suspicions about others? At some point, you're going to be suspicious of someone who is suspicious of you. Besides, for innocents, why not be suspicious of someone who is suspicious of you, if you know you're innocent? (And yes, I know that's not a reason to be suspicious of someone. 'Tis a joke...have fun with it.)

Oh goodness...

Originally Posted by Rikae

Because hobbits don't need shoes, if you catch my drift.

You are the Cobbler? A bit early to say so, don't you think?

Edit: Cross-posted with Di. And oh, Rikae's comment I see might have been concerning CoD? Sorry, I perhaps jumped the gun because I once in my former life did the exact same thing, just replace "hobbits" with "cats" and "need" with "wear".

[Rikae]

Durelin, you might want to reread my post - I voted for CoD "because Hobbits don't need shoes", and therefore, we can dispense with the one who makes them., who I suspect (as well as one can on Day 1) to be CoD.

EDIT: X posted with Durelin's edit.

[Durelin]

I apologize for the confusion.

I would love it if you'd tell us why you think CoD is the Cobbler, though. I have yet to vote, and am not certain who to vote for yet.

Edit: Cross-posted with Di again.

[Rikae]

I thought his original "seerish" comment really wasn't satisfactorily explained by his excuse of being in character.

That sort of comment seems unwise for anyone (especially the seer), and might be designed to generate confusion. I admit, it isn't much, but there wasn't really anyone else attracting my suspicion. Well, Boro seems slightly odd, actually, but I can't put my finger on it yet. It isn't merely quietness; something about him seems wicked, tricksssy, falsssse, but I'll reserve judgement for now.

[Rikae]

Nogrod, I can't explain what I don't understand. I don't know what I've done to annoy you - I guess I'm just too much of a novice to produce "good gaming".

EDIT: I see, you're saying I annoyed you by not giving a reason. I thought you were asking me to give a reason why I was so annoying.

[Durelin]

I must vote, as I will be from my computer untimely ripped very soon...

Captain's Log, 4:24 EST, Nov. 9, 2006: The crew is in utter chaos, and I am forced to determine between who is popularly believed to be of blame. CoD and Anguirel. I asked for advice from a CoD accuser, but "one of the advantages of being a captain is being able to ask for advice without necessarily having to take it..."

++Anguirel, for reasons as stated before, and because lynching CoD makes no sense to me...even though he doesn't seem like he would be much of a loss at this point.

Note: All quotes are from here.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, Boro seems slightly odd, actually, but I can't put my finger on it yet. It isn't merely quietness; something about him seems wicked, tricksssy, falsssse, but I'll reserve judgement for now.

I guess I need to learn to keep my big mouth shut when I have a hunch!

[Nogrod]

I could vote for Rikae just from pure annoyance... That was not good gaming or taking part to this. Not by any standards. A reason or two, please.

Rune's posting has been irritating too, just nonsense and random. That doesn't help us at all. But I've been wrong about Rune quite a many times before...

Valier should pop in and say something or then the same would go with her too. And if Gurthang does not show up as he promised, I will dislike his performance too.

If Farael does not show up, I would say the same of him too.

Naria and Volo have flown under my radar the whole Day. I'm not totally comfortable with it, but can't see a case to be made either.

Towards CoD and Anguirel I might have points to back my vote. But they have played. That I think is important. As it is important to have a particular reason to vote for someone... A dilemma here.

EDit: X'd with a few...