WWJ XIII: 'Til Death Do We LARP

[Durelin]

Gurthang, you frustrate me. You jump in with a vote...and that's about it. On Day One, that may have worked, but...we've got a little more to look at right now. I hate doing the "suspecting who suspects you" bit, but I must say that the fact that you jump in with no new ideas and simply vote for who has been the talk of the hour seems a bit too...easy. I think Boro's points about you are good ones. What stops me here is my suspicion of Boro, which has not been settled.

The problem is, I think Gurthang's behavior has actually been a little too careless. Boro describes him as 'careful,' but I disagree. If he was really being careful, he would be doing more than just arriving with a vote, and then saying in a post after his vote that if he has the time, he'll look into someone else. I think a wolf would have thought about that a little more.

People who are bothering me more are Naria and Volo. Yes, I'm back to the quiet ones. I hope I can hear from them more before I make any real judgments (such as ones that might involve actually voting for one of them), but...well, I'm going to make some simple judgments now: both of them have been incredibly careful when they have posted. Light in-character banter without any actual accusations, and only fairly brief and concise, thoughtful pieces after that. Those sort of things I've seen in wolves before...an innocent I find more likely to post more boldly and with less of a one track purpose....innocents jump around in their posts quite a bit, because they don't know who is who. Wolves have a much better idea.

I find this incredibly interesting, though...

Originally Posted by Boro

Volo just scares me because of his inactivity and his few confusing posts with some type of foreign language (German?). He could be the cobbler, but I don't have enough to go off of, besides the fact that he was confusing, and still is baffling me.

I agree with him, and yet I find it odd that he left out Naria. Though I suppose that might be because her posts have not been so 'confusing.' Anyway, I obviously have a problem when people remain so out of any attention whatsoever, and I think Naria has been doing this incredibly well, except for Nogrod's expected attention to her.

I'll probably vote for either Naria or Gurthang, depending on how the rest of the Day goes. I will wait as long as I can to vote, as I want to hear from Naria, and hopefully Gurthang more, if he does come back.

Edit: Cross-posted with Di, and for clarity.

[Naria]

Sorry for the absence. I have come down with the flu and way to dizzy to sit here and read everything through. I will cast my vote today and it goes to

++CoD

[Diamond18]

I have to vote, and as there hasn't been much going on.... uhhh....

++Naria

I know she has the flu, but, well, I have to go.

[Thinlómien]

NOTE: I'm staying overnight in my friend's house with a few another friends and my friends are disapproving me wwing all the night. As this seemed to be the ebst phase for me to get online, I got a permission to use the computer. Anyway, I can't be around for a long time.

Those who seem innocent to me:
Noggie - is his usual self, speaks sense, has an innocent air
Valier - her long post today was very innocentish and she's reasonable too

not sure
Durelin - some suspicious things, but mostly normal behaviour
Naria - I can't say anything before I hear more of her
Volo - weird enough (though I guess that's normal), could be good or bad
Farael - seems more calm and rational than the other times I've played with him, but I can't conclude anything of this since the two times I've played with him he was first lover and the ordo. I need more material from him to judge him in a way or another.
Diamond - I'm finding it difficult to form a picture of her
Rune - seems like his usual self, but there's not yet enough contribution from him to be more certain

slightly suspicious
Boro - I admit it, this is mostly a feeling and I can put my finger on it, but it is because of his style, maybe he's a bit too paceful... or apologetic... But: even though he's in this category I doubt I will vote him; I dislike voting based solely on "feelings" or impressions. Feelings and impressions are good reasons for a suspicion, but in my opinion they're not enough to make you vote someone.
CoD - his logic seems flawed, maybe wolvishly flawed. Not only ordos can leave seer-hints accidentally, wolves can too (or the they do it for a reason...).
Gurth - see what I've said of him before

I must vote soon and I don't have any clear suspicions right now... It's back to rereading.

EDIT: xed with Di

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Hunches is requested, well I will deliver then. . .

CoD is innocent, just because. . .

Gurthang is innocent because it would be silly of a wolf to make a silly vote and not change it.

Volo i am uneasy about. . .I will let him be today though (because he is not pressent)

Naria is a wolf and need to be delt with (meaning I suspect her)

Valier , Lommy , Borro and Nogrod I am not sure what to make of.

I am leaning towards innocens when thinking about Di and Durelin, they simply comes off as speaking the truth.

So Naria is the one making me the most uneasy. . .I did not have time to read through (thorough) what was said today and for that I appologise. I should be able to take a better look tomorrow.

++Naria
Edit: Cross posted with Nogrod and Valier

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Gurth

Well, uhm... I know that actually. Did I really...? Sorry if I made the mistake, but I think the her I was referring to was Rikae. Who is a she, correct?

Rereading it, I think it was my mistake and you were speaking of Rikae, who is a she.

Originally Posted by Noggie

If we all just waited for something significant to occur, nothing significant would not ever occur.

Well said!

++Gurthang

If we don't get rid of a wolf, we'll get rid of a person who has an annoying voting "style"... (No offense meant, Gurth. )

I will certainly keep my eye on CoD too, but right now I suspect Gurth a bit more.

Good N/night!

[Nogrod]

Naria states a RL reason and somehow that's it. We must be able to trust that kind of announcements even though we might feel very bad about them... I would be quite ready to vote for Volo or Naria toDay, but seemingly I can't. I just hope neither of them is a wolf as then I might say that their possible victory was gained in an unsportsmanlike fashion.

But that makes concentrating toDay a bit easier.

As I said, I don't see myself voting for Boro, Lommy, Di or Valier toDay.

I'm not happy with that, but one has to draw some lines somewhere. Both Boro and Lommy seem to have been supporting myself somewhat and that feels nice but also sends some alarm-bells ringing (I remember one of my grandfathers who was a baddie fooling Boro just the same way; being friendly and openly trusting). But still they seem to be reasonable and quite vocal. Both are good things for the game as a vocal wolf has a zillion times more possibilities to slip than a quiet one - and they make the game more entertaining... Di I could see softly turning the village to her favourite direction (including myself yesterDay) and Valier could be just the Wormtongue we accused Ang yesterDay.

Still, without further evidence or ideas I will not concentrate on them either, at least toDay.

So what does this exclusion leave me with?
CaptainofDespair
Durelin
Farael
Gurthang
Rune

I'm not sure if we have more than one wolf in here, but I definitively believe there is at least one.

I'll try to see if there is anything to justify a vote in there.

EDIT: X'd with Di & Lommy

[Valier]

I too have the same list you do Nogrod and with the little talk right now I am finding it hard to pick who I should vote for. If anyone else is around I would love to hear what they have thought of. So many of the votes are noncommital today.

[CaptainofDespair]

I do not like this casual voting by Naria. Real life reason or not, quickly voting without even the slightest reasoning is highly suspicious, especially as the Day is winding down.

I would very much like to vote for Gurthang, but this new revelation is disturbing. Naria may well acquire my vote.

Edit: Cross posted with Rune.

[Valier]

(OOC I know Naria in RL and she is really truly vomity flu sick, so please donot hold that against her or vote for her just for this reason.)

[Nogrod]

Gurthang --> Durelin (Durelin1)
Boromir --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang1)
Naria --> CoD (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1)
Diamond --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1, Naria1)
Lommy --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria1)
Rune --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria2)

CoD is continuing with the amazingly straightforward way of suspecting all those who vote for him and trusting those who don't... I don't know what to make of it. As such - if he's innocent - it's no good and does not serve us in any way but to generate unwanted rivalries and confusion (a cobbler still? I was quite ready to forget that suspicion yesterDay evening).

Gurthang's voting is downright horrible - and he has sticked around toDay but still he seems offering little and making sure his votes are the most safe. I have no lorebook on him (or it has gotten lost). Is this the way he usually plays? I had a belief (from somewhere) that he is an active and "substantial" player. In this game he has not shown either. A wolf then?

I'll try to see for better arguments for the people in the list I posted the last time soon. These were just initials...

[Nogrod]

Where are you people? Half of us left to vote still (minus Volo who is away).

Both Durelinand Farael play differently than my lorebooks tell me. Durelin is much more active and Farael a lot more milder and friendly.

The latter I found more disturbing.

Rune I just find troubling. His vote for Naria could be seen as a safe one (if it does not happen that we lynch her and she turns out to be a wolf).

Some other opinions?

My list of suspects to vote now would look something like:
Farael
Gurthang
Rune

[Valier]

I do find it odd CoD that you now just flip flop and say you may vote for Naria when earlier you were willing to say that she looked innocent to you. Your actions still scream Cobbler to me. But I do think Gurthangs actions warrent a good stern look too. He votes early says he may not be back, then sticks around for quite awhile and defends himself better...hmmmm

[Nogrod]

[QUOTE=Nogrod]Gurthang --> Durelin (Durelin1)
Boromir --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang1)
Naria --> CoD (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1)
Diamond --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang1, CoD1, Naria1)
Lommy --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria1)
Rune --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang2, CoD1, Naria2)
Durelin --> Gurthang (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria2)
CoD --> Naria (Durelin1, Gurthang3, CoD1, Naria3)

If it is only Valier and me in here, we are again in a hard spot... It is Gurthang or Naria then.

Anyone else around?

[Nogrod]

I just hope Farael turns in, if he is an innocent! If he is a villain, may the "not voting for two days" -rule swallow him!

And Gurthang, good to see you. Unhappily we're talking of minutes here...

You sure come in late. If it's RL, no problem, but as you didn't say it is, that's more than suspicious...

[Farael]

Well, I haven't had time to read everything properly, but I'll post a vote at least? if I'm not too late....

++Durelin
To avoid mod-fire.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gurthang's voting is downright horrible - and he has sticked around toDay but still he seems offering little and making sure his votes are the most safe. I have no lorebook on him (or it has gotten lost). Is this the way he usually plays? I had a belief (from somewhere) that he is an active and "substantial" player. In this game he has not shown either. A wolf then?

Except for that last question, you're pretty spot-on. I was highly active in previous games, but have little time to properly apply myself now. Which saddens me greatly. As per that, I shall not waste time trying to defend myself, as I am not much of an asset to the village. All I will say is I'm an ordinary innocent, and you may take that anywhere you want. (As I'm sure you will. )

Durelin's vote for me speaks in her favor. I think a wolf would be more fearful that people would see it as being 'jumpy'. Also her earlier post outlining possibilities leads me to think she's innocent. It was like she was thinking out loud (as I have sometimes done) and wolves will think quietly and censor everything they say. So, I'm clearing her for now.

--Durelin

(I'm still under the impression that I can do this. If not, someone please correct me.)

Since time is getting short, I'll scan as much as I can. Specifically, CoD.

[Valier]

I find it odd that you show up now Gurthang and change your vote. You don't have much time to browse the thread now. This makes me even more suspisious of you.

++Gurthang

[Nogrod]

Those not voted yet:
CaptainofDespair
Durelin
Farael
Nogrod
Valier
Volo

Of these Volo is away and will not vote.

Myself, Valier and CoD seem to be around. Durelin I believe to stick in before the deadline.

Will Farael vote toDay? Is his inactivity due to the insurmountable RL issues or something else (including a non-interest with being an ordo as some people seem to have?)?

We still have all the options open.

[Durelin]

If Naria is too ill to really participate, then I will not go after her. Personally, I feel that she actually should not have voted then, if she could not even read through the game (which, again, is perfectly understandable). Though now that I notice CoD's edit to his post, his reasoning is really...bothersome. Maybe he is the Cobbler. And now that I think about it, being a completely suicidal Cobbler isn't against his nature.

Ugh...I feel like I'm wasting time on him, though. He's just been...useless.

I do not want to vote for Naria based on the circumstances, so that leaves me with Gurthang. I'm beginning to feel like he might be the Cobbler if not a wolf, if CoD isn't the Cobbler...and I have less reason to think he is. Though it isn't necessarily against his nature to be so 'suicidal,' in my opinion, I think he might be a little smarter about it if he was the Cobbler.

I need to leave, unfortunately... No one is standing out to me except for CoD and Gurthang. The only person who I can really pinpoint bad feelings about is Boro.

I must vote, so...

++Gurthang

Edit: Cross-posted with Val and Nogrod

[Nogrod]

I see voting Naria unfair if and when she has a RL reason to stay out.

Who then?

Farael?
Gurthang?
Rune?

That doesn't mean I think all the others innocent - as I said Boro's and Lommy's trust feel nice and suspicious at the same time and even though I have now said I don't vote for off-liners Volo or Naria, it doesn't mean I trust them, on the contrary.

I just don't know.

And we are short on time...