The Hobbit in July 2007? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elladan and Elrohir · 11-16-2006, 03:48 PM

So there's the solution. You still make one Hobbit movie, and you get to bring back (almost) the entire LOTR cast in the other one. Intriguing, to say the least. I can't say I like it, yet, but I can't say I dislike it either. The important thing is that they do it, and that PJ directs it.

Encaitare · 11-20-2006, 12:36 AM

Letter from Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh to theonering.net...

Apparently they will not be making The Hobbit now.

Rikae · 11-20-2006, 12:46 PM

Those fools! I have no faith in New Line whatsoever; no doubt whoever they get will botch the job horribly.

I know some of you think PJ did just that, but I'm in the "it was much better than I expected and I don't think another director would do a better job" camp.

EDIT: If anyone else is feeling as disgusted as I am:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/a...bbitwithoutPJ/

Brinniel · 11-21-2006, 12:28 AM

Indeed, this is very disappointing to hear. Despite what they say, I don't think this issue is over. There will be much protesting before anything is fully resolved.

However, the way it is looking right now, there's no chance PJ and Fran will ever be involved with The Hobbit. I do think there is a director somewhere out there that can handle this project, perhaps another loyal Tolkien fan. The mystery is whether New Line will find and hire that "right" director. The Hobbit won't be the same without PJ (and most likely not nearly as amazing as LotR), but after the success of LotR, New Line and the new director will be careful not to completely screw up the film. Also, if majority of the crew of LotR decides to get involved with The Hobbit, a certain element from the previous films will be kept. Personally, I could not bear to watch The Hobbit without the same design team and Weta. Weta did such an excellent job- no other company could do The Hobbit justice.

Lalaith · 11-21-2006, 03:52 AM

From the Guardian this morning:
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/stor...952973,00.html

Rikae · 11-21-2006, 06:16 AM

Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit.

EDIT: Perhaps WETA will still be involved. From TORn:
"The severing of ties between PJ and New Line did not mean Weta was automatically barred from doing The Hobbit, according to Weta chief Richard Taylor."
http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml

Essex · 11-21-2006, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae

Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit.

I'm not sure this would be true. as you said in your edit, weta might still be involved.

and why not mckellen or serkis? does an actor have to stay loyal to a director? no of course not. does jackson stay 'loyal' to actors by using them in each of his movies? of course he does not. ok, he used Serkis as Kong but that stands to reason. but he didn't use mckellen or anyone else in king kong. so why would that mean mckellen (or blanchett or elrond or Lee) not do the movie if it has another director?

perhaps serkis has some 'loyalty' to jackson, but I don't think jackson would mind if any of these actors took a part in a hobbit film with another director.

11-16-2006, 03:48 PM	#1
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	So there's the solution. You still make one Hobbit movie, and you get to bring back (almost) the entire LOTR cast in the other one. Intriguing, to say the least. I can't say I like it, yet, but I can't say I dislike it either. The important thing is that they do it, and that PJ directs it. __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

11-20-2006, 12:36 AM	#2
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	I think this is legit... Letter from Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh to theonering.net... Apparently they will not be making The Hobbit now.

11-20-2006, 12:46 PM	#3
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Those fools! I have no faith in New Line whatsoever; no doubt whoever they get will botch the job horribly. I know some of you think PJ did just that, but I'm in the "it was much better than I expected and I don't think another director would do a better job" camp. EDIT: If anyone else is feeling as disgusted as I am: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/a...bbitwithoutPJ/ Last edited by Rikae; 11-20-2006 at 04:40 PM.

11-21-2006, 12:28 AM	#4
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Indeed, this is very disappointing to hear. Despite what they say, I don't think this issue is over. There will be much protesting before anything is fully resolved. However, the way it is looking right now, there's no chance PJ and Fran will ever be involved with The Hobbit. I do think there is a director somewhere out there that can handle this project, perhaps another loyal Tolkien fan. The mystery is whether New Line will find and hire that "right" director. The Hobbit won't be the same without PJ (and most likely not nearly as amazing as LotR), but after the success of LotR, New Line and the new director will be careful not to completely screw up the film. Also, if majority of the crew of LotR decides to get involved with The Hobbit, a certain element from the previous films will be kept. Personally, I could not bear to watch The Hobbit without the same design team and Weta. Weta did such an excellent job- no other company could do The Hobbit justice. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

11-21-2006, 03:52 AM	#5
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	From the Guardian this morning: http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/stor...952973,00.html __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

11-21-2006, 06:16 AM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Bear in mind, this most likely means not only no WETA, but no McKellen or Serkis, either. I predict an unwatchably awful Hobbit. EDIT: Perhaps WETA will still be involved. From TORn: "The severing of ties between PJ and New Line did not mean Weta was automatically barred from doing The Hobbit, according to Weta chief Richard Taylor." http://www.theonering.net/index.shtml Last edited by Rikae; 11-21-2006 at 06:26 AM.

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