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Old 11-17-2006, 05:54 AM   #1
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Note: I left Boro's postings after Durelin's coming out out of this...

CoD
CoD on Naria
#40 says he will have a look at her and trieds to disprove her cobbler-theory
#53 is suspicious of her (and of me and of Dury and of Farael)
#81 is not so suspicious about her anymore because she hasn't been active, asks her to be more active
#99 says there's not enough information to infer from in Naria to make any clear picture of her, says his suspicions of her are feeling-based
#111 dislikes her casual voting, says she's suspicious
#118 votes her because she has suspected him twice
#134 asks if we should look her not that Rune who last voted for her is dead
#149 says he would like to vote her
#170 votes her
#190 says it's good that the village got rid of her
#214 says that apparently Naria's death hasn't got the heat off him
CoD on Boro
#49 explains to B his backing off of Dury and Farael
#99 says his theory about Gurth sounds more probable
#192 agrees with Noggie's logic that B might be a wolf
#214 votes him
Boro on CoD
#25 says he's one of the most innocent-looking this far, says he's spoken some decent sense and that is not going to vote him
#31 lists him along with himself, Noggie and Ang as one that has tried to get the village turning, says that's something the wolves like to do, but says he won't vote for village-turners
#46 ok, I'm not sure what to make of this so I quote:
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Originally Posted by Boro
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I only said I would keep an eye on them. I never gave them position. However, they have not wantonly attacked me for simply being in-character (which is where all of this seems to have stemmed from).
Tis a pity CoD, as that really was my reasoning for you appearing innocent. As I was thinking the same.
#153 says he sees no point in lynching Naria or CoD
#160 repeats that Naria and CoD seem quite innocent
#172 says he will vote Naria to save CoD
Naria on CoD
#38 suspects him of being the cobbler, says his statement on knowledge that commoners can't obtain is "incriminating", says she will probably vote him
#104 says she's way too dizzy from the flu to read anything or participate, votes CoD

Farael

Farael on Naria
#4 in-character, asks her to start a band with him
#145 thinks Naria innocent based on Rune's death
#222 says he didn't want to save Naria, but to kill CoD
Farael on Boro
#85 questions his adamantness about him (Boro) being himself the previous day
#140 says he (B) misunderstood him (F)
#145 hints that Boro, CoD and Durelin are interacting
#155 answers his suspicions, asks "Are you a wolf, Mr Boromir?"
#196 says he (B) could drag an ordo with him (refers to CoD), aks for a borolysis from Dury or Noggie
#198 answers bantery Boro saying he (B) won't help the village
#207 says Boro might try a multiple bluff, asks for the villagers not to listen to him (B)
#211 says he's surprised if B doesn't get all the votes, votes him, asks for a borolysis
3236 asks for a borolysis again
Boro on Farael
#46 is worried about Farael and Durelin's interactions
#50 votes him based on his "disappearing from existence"
#136 disagrees with him about Rune's death being a surprise
#153 says he might vote Farael again for he's too hasty and disagrees with him about wolfing and expresses dislike of his trio-speculation
#172 names him his main suspect
#176 says he'd prefer voting Farael to voting Naria or CoD
Naria on Farael
#14 in-character, refuses his band request

Valier

Valier on Naria
#96 finds her non-voting strange, has no clue about her, lists her as "bringing up the rear of my suspicions"
#112 says she knows her (N) from RL and confirms she's ill
#139 speculates about the reasons behind Rune's death and thus mentions Naria; I got the impression she thought her innocent
#156 says she'll vote either Naria or CoD
#177 "If Naria doesn't die and doesn't show up tomorrow then yes she warrants my vote for nonparticipation."
Valier on Boro
#96 says that he's been his normal talkative self, notes that he likes complimenting people when evil, finds nothing alarming about him, lists him as "not overtly supicious yet"
#215 "Now Boromir.....Holy cow....this is the most talk from a know wolf ever. Nice try, but nothing you say holds true, I will not heed anything you have to say. Bye bye wolfie.", votes him
Boro on Valier
#153 doesn't find her reasoning illogical
Naria on Valier
~nothing~

Volo
Volo on Naria
#210 mentions that he didn't say a word about Naria when she was still alive
#221 says Farel tried to take attention from her
Volo on Boro
#226 "Thanks pal!", votes him
Boro on Volo
#46 disagrees with him about Noggie and wolf-tactics
#89 says he (B) is going to have a look at Ang/CoD -voters, includes V in the list
#97 says he scares him because of his inactivity and german, says he (V) might be the cobbler
#172 speculates about why Naria and Volo who are silent aren't dead yet
Naria on Volo
~nothing~

Whoa, that was work! A commentary/ conclusions to come soon...
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:06 AM   #2
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Quadrupule posting...? Oh, my...

Ok.

The argument between CoD and Naria is too big for two wolves. Also, Naria votes CoD without knowing the situation (very dangerous for a wolf). Thirdly, Boro defends him too much. Besides, I don't think even Boro would so fiercely protect both his wolvish companion in the same day and even in the same sentence.
I think CoD's innocent, after all.

Farael I'm inclined to consider innocent too. He and Boro argue way too much to be companions in wolvery. And the whole interaction thing... I don't think he'd mess his fellow wolf in such business.

So, Valier or Volo?
It could be any of them, though I'm slightly more inclined to believe Volo guilty. Mostly because of he himself pointing out that he did not say a word about Naria while she was alive. First, who else than a wolf keeps any account of who he has spoken about? Can't think of anyone, Except the seer maybe, and we know Volo is no seer. And, why didn't he say a word about her when she was alive? Maybe because he didn't want to take sides considering his fellow wolf.

I'll vote about two hours from now and my vote will probably go to Volo, but a vote for Valier is certainly not an impossibility either.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:04 AM   #3
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I can't believe I'm... cinqupule? fivble? fifthble? (any suggestions?) posting

Is the last battle of this village going to be one including a flood-posting Lommy and a bunch of mutes? I understand we all have different timezones and different amount of time to commit to ww, but this seems quite ridiculous. Besides me only Farael and Nogrod (who hopefully posts his borolysis soon) have posted. I'm glad they, at least, have. Doesn't look very good to me. In this phase only villains profit from silence. If I'm alive tomorrow, I will certainly remember that. Where's CoD who used to post at "dawn"? Where's Volo who has been able to post before the finnish afternoon before? Where's Valier? Truly, this village is probably driving me crazy. We need evidence to catch the wolf. We need analysis, discussion and theories to catch him/her. What we need the least is a cowardly silence.

Without further ranting

++Volo

I can't say he's overtly suspicious, but I can't say that of anyone else either. It's just that CoD and Farael look pretty innocent (not to mention our known innocent Nogrod), and Volo looks slightly more alarming than Valier. (Check my previous posts.)

But, really, do speak if you're not wolves or cravens. Or worst of all, cravens that suffer from lycantrophy.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:14 AM   #4
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Last comment before I leave... Septuple posting?

Incriminating evidence: Volo has been online today, last an hour ago. But hasn't posted anything here!

Noggie's concentrating on the wrong ww...

Well, that's it before I leave. I hope I don't need to see you tomorrow, ie. I hope we lynch the last wolf today.

But I could echo what I said just a few minutes ago:
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But, really, do speak if you're not wolves or cravens. Or worst of all, cravens that suffer from lycantrophy.
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:16 AM   #5
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Just to inform you...

I need to get something to eat, but after that I will sit by my computer and read through Boro's posts precedeng yesterDay.

Let's go hunt one wolf!

That's heroic Lommy (if you're not a wolf) - that's almost as heroic (were you the last remaining lycanthrope)!
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Old 11-17-2006, 08:25 AM   #6
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Yes yes, I'm here, for once I have time to look through the game to find sense in something. Wouldn't want to die innocent the day I have time to write something...

EDIT: Nah, sorry, I forgot that I have to go out now. I hope that it won't take too much time and I'll post something with more sense later. Working on CoD right now, and he doesn't seem wolfish.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:34 AM   #7
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Working on CoD right now, and he doesn't seem wolfish.
Just a really quick post, I have a lab report due this afternoon and I still have two little details to write. The introduction and the conclussion...

If CoD does not seem wolfish, why 'work' on him? I think we are fairly pressed to find whoever IS the wolf, we cannot possibly prove anyone to be innocent now that our Seer is dead, so we should try to find the guilty ones, not make cases for someone else's innocence.

That really seems wolfish to me, as the wolf (duh) knows that whoever he claims to be innocent WILL be innocent thus making him look good.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:58 AM   #8
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I am sorry for not posting at 'dawn'. I felt that, considering what transpired the day before, I am more of a distraction than an aid.

Anywho, I am suspicious of Volo and Valier.

Volo, apparently, is doing what I am doing, in saying nothing of substance and being rather shifty (in my opinion, of course). I'm not sure whether we should lynch him first or not. Though I am all for lynching him.

Valier, on the other hand, has proven to be just as odd, in my mind. But I can't quite put my finger on it (I'd rather use the iron fist of justice, anyhow).

I'm torn, between these two. I'd very much like to get rid of both of them and see what happens. But since I can't, I'll probably side with Volo, who sits a bit more uneasily with me at this point.
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:07 AM   #9
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If CoD does not seem wolfish, why 'work' on him? I think we are fairly pressed to find whoever IS the wolf, we cannot possibly prove anyone to be innocent now that our Seer is dead, so we should try to find the guilty ones, not make cases for someone else's innocence.
You do have to "work" on someone to see if he/she is a wolf... And CoD was the person I chose to be the first.
Today is the first day I mind if I die or not, but don't you think that my last post yesterday would have been a good move from a wolf, who seem to be staying in the shadows otherwise... Ok, me noting that first does make it sound wolfish...
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The group of campers slowly assembled. The sun was low on the horizon. Volo, looking towards the west, could see the red sun and the spreading red light through the trees and branches of the wood. The trees were dark against the red light.

“My blood will be as innocent as that light,” he said, nodding towards the sunset. “You take a step towards your own deaths if you kill me. In a moment, night’s darkness will over come you all and nothing will protect you from the remaining wolf. Won’t you reconsider?”

Lommy shivered at his words of night’s darkness. Her eyes strayed towards the red sun. “No!” she cried suddenly. “We can’t reconsider! I’m tired of this! Tired of all these deaths! Tired of being falsely accused! Tired! Tired! Tired!” Lommy apparently was tired –and stressed - for she burst into tears, like women sometimes do. Valier came towards her and gently took her in her arms and hugged her. Over her head, she nodded to Nogrod, Farael, and the Captain. The three men went forward.

“In the army, we always hung the criminals,” Nogrod said quietly as he came towards Volo. “It will work.”

Half an hour later, they cut down the unchanged body of Volo. Silently, in the falling dusk, the three men dug a grave for their companion. Lommy and Valier sat together beside a fire when they returned to camp. No one said anything. They ate a cheerless dinner.

The last bit of red sunlight disappeared, leaving the sky dark. Cruel firelight flickered on the faces of the companions. They looked at each other mutely a moment before, silently, one by one, they all crept back to their own tents.


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JennyHallu - Club President - Bound and collated on Night 1
Folwren - Vice-President - Used for ink on Night 1
Anguirel - Innocent - Misspelled on Day 1
Rikae - Innocent - Buried alive on Night 2
Gurthang - Innocent - Fell from grace on Day 2
Rune - Cobbler - Given a permanent assignment on Night 3
Naria - Werewolf - Tuned permanently on Day 3
Diamond - Innocent - Serenaded on Night 4
Boromir88 - Werewolf - Suffocated on Day 4
Durelin - Seer - ?? on Night 5
Volo - Innocent - Hung on Day 5

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CaptainofDespair - Pompous Nobleman - Melneras, the Gnomish Archwizard
Farael - Heavy-metal singer - sneak
Nogrod - Retired General - Ciryatan of the Dúnedain, a one-legged Athelas vendor
Thinlomien - aging homeless sot - Lothwen the Pretty, elven flowermaid
Valier - Radical Hair Butcher - Elven Anoonnoon of Omicron Persieye 8

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Should Durelin be taken off from among the living... She's hanging in there for a second time as a ghost...

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Thinlomien could not sleep after she had gone to her tent. She tossed and turned in her blankets, the events of the past days and nights going through her head over and over. She tried, to no avail, to keep the horrid pictures out of the dead companions, and the different mornings they had woken up to find bodies missing or mutilated.

Deep in the night, as she lay with her face in her pillow and shivering with some unknown terror, she felt a heavy, but gentle hand fall on the back of her head. A soft voice whispered in her ear.

“Why do you fear?” it asked. Whispered hoarsely, she could not tell if it was man or woman. She made no answer, and she even held her breath. Was this – was this - ? Terror froze her mind, her voice, everything. “It won’t take long. And, it will be painless. I can’t afford being found out tonight because of any noise…Look up. Do see this?” In the cloak of darkness, Lommy could see nothing except for a pale gleam that looked like glass. “Drink this water, and you’re death will be painless. If you make a noise or a movement, I’ll kill you in a less desirable way.”

It was like a dream. Lommy, captured by her terror of this unseen enemy, reached out to take the glass of water from the beast’s hand. She didn’t care to think what other death it had in store for her if she dared to disobey.

* - * - *

Only four people awoke the next morning. No one said anything. They all knew the routine. They instantly knew who was missing and all walked towards Lommy’s tent.

They found her body, cold and stiff, still in her bed. A peaceful look on her face, as though she slept. They knew, though, that from this sleep, she would not wake.

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JennyHallu - Club President - Bound and collated on Night 1
Folwren - Vice-President - Used for ink on Night 1
Anguirel - Innocent - Misspelled on Day 1
Rikae - Innocent - Buried alive on Night 2
Gurthang - Innocent - Fell from grace on Day 2
Rune - Cobbler - Given a permanent assignment on Night 3
Naria - Werewolf - Tuned permanently on Day 3
Diamond - Innocent - Serenaded on Night 4
Boromir88 - Werewolf - Suffocated on Day 4
Durelin - Seer - ?? on Night 5
Volo - Innocent - Hung on Day 5
Thinlomien - Innocent - Poisoned on Night 6

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CaptainofDespair - Pompous Nobleman - Melneras, the Gnomish Archwizard
Farael - Heavy-metal singer - sneak
Nogrod - Retired General - Ciryatan of the Dúnedain, a one-legged Athelas vendor
Valier - Radical Hair Butcher - Elven Anoonnoon of Omicron Persieye 8

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Old 11-18-2006, 04:08 PM   #13
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I do not get the reasoning behind that kill.. that reduces the number of unknowns, rather than having four unknowns, we have one known ordo and three unknowns.

Well, not going to complain about it. Question is, who is the guilty one, CoD or Valier?
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Well, I know I'm innocent. It's either Valier, or Farael.

I find it very interesting that Thinlomien is the one that is dead, and not Nogrod, the known innocent. Obviously, this last wolf is very confident.

Maybe Thinlomien was on to something in her recent analysis post...which makes killing Nogrod less advantageous. Or not.

I'm very confused about this...
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Maybe Thinlomien was on to something in her recent analysis post...which makes killing Nogrod less advantageous. Or not.
Loomy was suspecting Volo and Valier. I'm sure you know this, and I'm sure the wolf knows it too... that's why you killed Loomy to frame Valier today, ain't it CoD?
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Important, read carefully the following.

Two votes are enough for one to get killed. So? If even one innocent gives out a vote that is for another innocent, the wolf will just pop in and make the second and it's game over for us. So the first vote must be made more than carefully! I've seen that happen (I was the one killed).

To avoid any accidents favouring the wolf it might be wise if all of you would tell us others here when you are going to be able to play toDay and when is the last time you can be online.

I for my part can drop in every once in a while about the whole Day - after I get some sleep first, pretty soon. I do have RL and need to see also for Fea's game, but will surely be available also at the deadline toDay (if it comes to that).
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Since tomorrow is Sunday, I will be around all day, on and off as my coursework reading requires (and that won't take long). So you may count on me being around til the deadline.
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Well, if our fanged enemy here thought of confusing us, it really has succeeded.

This is just a weird situation... why did the wolf choose an unknown innocent and did not kill me?

I have thought of three possibilities.

1) I would think that the idea of Lommy being up to something too dangerous for the wolf could possibly be ruled out as that would be the obvious track we would start to follow. And honestly she basically said that Farael and CoD are probably innocent and Valier might be a furred one, but she had no strong points over her anyway. I just can't see Valier jumping around in panic and wishing to kill Lommy before me because of Lommy's posting. If anything, from this we might read a contrary lesson: Valier might be framed here to look guilty. But that would be a bit too clumsy.

conclusion, for now: Lommy was not killed because she suspected something or because someone wished to frame another via her thoughts.

2) A bit better candidate to my eyes is that I'm completely at loss with this (as I am, have been the whole game) and the wolf considered that I would pose a lesser threat to it toDay. So not so much Lommy being fearfully right but myself being totally lost and thence safer to play the last Day against? Adding to the above: you all remember the amount of work Lommy did yesterDay. Maybe our wolf is afraid that the devil is in the details and thence wanted Lommy out not to dig those details up? But for the wolf to actually risk letting one known innocent to remain in-game for that, the information must be mighty condemning! According to my lorebooks Valier surely is quite knowledgeable of the fact that I may also go on making detailed analysis which may be pretty nasty. I think Farael knows that too, even I'm not so sure about him. CoD I have never played with and thence he might not know it and this point could then point towards him being the culprit.

conclusion, for now: I'm not very confident about this option either: the stakes are a bit too high for this risk to be taken just on the basis of supposed playing styles.

3) The wolf feels itself so confident or is such a sporty type who wishes to make it not only winning but winning beautifully? This might not be too far-fetched if you remember what I said in my last post about the votes. Just one vote for a fellow innocent will mean death to us all if two of us can't turn the tables before the wolf gets to vote. But who could fit this description? Even though I don't know CoD from previous games I tend to doubt him being the one on the basis of this as he has been under a lot of fire in this game. Farael I'm not so sure. He feels to be more impulsive and aggressive than this cool... Valier then?

conclusion, for now: Somewhat baffled as I see this the most viable reason for killing Lommy in principle. If Boro would still be in the game (or Ang or...) I would be quite ready to call the lynching party immediately, but now...

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Well, I need to sleep on these now.

One thing I think would be useful - if anyone has time - would be a voting record for everyone for the whole game, including whom they voted, when they did it (in what situation of voting that Day) and with what kind of reasons.


Just please don't anyone vote before its absolutely necessary!
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