Tol-in-Gaurhoth XXVI - Úcenite Valto - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-17-2006, 08:53 PM

I had been tending to view Roa as the more likely Wolf than Esty in the latter part of toDay, but I'm not sure what to make of Esty returning at this hour. Any thoughts, Noggie and TP?

Nogrod · 11-17-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I had been tending to view Roa as the more likely Wolf than Esty in the latter part of toDay, but I'm not sure what to make of Esty returning at this hour. Any thoughts, Noggie and TP?

Look at my earlier post with the vote. That's what I think right now...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-17-2006, 08:54 PM

Hehe. Cross-posted with Noggie, who had already answered with his vote ...

I could change my vote, or we could leave it to the Dark Lady's machinations ...

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-17-2006, 08:57 PM

I'm inclined to trust you on this Noggie, as you are something of a Roa expert (which doesn't mean I'll blame you tomorrow if it all turns out wrong, rest assured).

What say you phantom?

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-17-2006, 08:59 PM

Gotta do it now, if I'm going to do it.

--Roa_Aoife

++Estelyn Telcontar

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-17-2006, 08:59 PM

Ai! Utter confusion!

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-17-2006, 09:00 PM

phantom's vote made Roa 4
Saucy's made me 4

The Dark Lady will have to roll dice, then a head.

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-17-2006, 09:01 PM

Saucy, I wish you'd have understood phantom's reasoning - he was right about me. Time will show.

Diamond18 · 11-17-2006, 09:01 PM

After all this, a tie. That's what I was going for an hour ago!

Feanor of the Peredhil · 11-18-2006, 08:27 PM

One woman of the village had lain awake, watching the fading wick and flickering flame, touching her fingertips to the melted wax and rolling it to soft putty between them. She had loved the gravedigger as a brother, and she had wept over his senseless death, and she had known... known it could not be long for her. When her companions, her deadly companions, had spoken against her, she had known.

She laid awake in the darkness, watching her light dwindle, feeling the draft through the open window she had been certain to close and lock. She knew. She had heard the call, seen the darkest sliver of night in motion. It was time, and she whispered pretty thoughts, sad thoughts, thoughts of days she could not know to herself with brief clarity of finality.

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow," she murmured, no fear in her eyes, "creeps in this petty place from day to night and night to day, to the last syllable of recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life is nothing. This too brief life is nothing; fleeting and bitter and cruel. We are all but walking shadows."

She looked to her ceiling and let her eyes close. A soft tendril breath of breeze unlit her candle, and as the dark came, so did her long goodnight.

When the village awoke, their sweet Roa was not amongst them.

the phantom · 11-18-2006, 09:57 PM

I was about to leap in with posting and give my thoughts, but instead I wish to sit back and observe for a bit. I have what I believe to be a couple of important points to make, but if I post them, I'm afraid that if my thoughts are too compelling in certain areas some of you might just use me as the starting point and take off from there. Instead of that happening I should very much like to see how some of you would choose to start the day yourself and to see which path you would have us follow without anyone else running ahead first.

I will post a tally and a voting breakdown of yesterday in the next little while, but that's all for a bit.

the phantom · 11-18-2006, 11:36 PM

Uhg. I very very much wanted to see what would happen if I allowed others to post first. I wanted to keep my eyes open for some things. But timing is against me. I feel the need to speak now, for all of you likely won't give me anything to respond to until I'm in bed, and tomorrow I won't be able to post probably until the eight-hours-left mark.

So, grudgingly, here are my thoughts.

Roa died? Hmmm.....

This selection was not what I expected. Will it throw us off course, or help us zero in on the culprit?

The first thing that comes to mind is that Roa's death leaves us with a name- SPM.

Early in the day she spent a good deal of time on SPM, and he was at that point her primary suspect along with Esty.

Roa's list can be found here.

I'm wondering about SPM... the night before, lmp was killed, and when hearing the news I imagine most of you immediately thought of SPM due to the bickering that took place the day before. And then last night, Roa is killed, and her remaining suspect is none other than SPM.

Is SPM a WW making ridiculously bold choices and assuming that everyone will think no WW would ever do such a thing, or does someone really really want to set up SPM for a lynch?

Regarding the idea that SPM is being set up, Nogrod would be my primary suspect. Not only did he point suspicion towards SPM yesterday, but he also showed some late faith in Roa, and she had him as one of two on her "probably innocent" list, which makes him look good today.

But then again, perhaps killing Roa was an attempt to get us to do exactly as I have done, which is make this a two horse race between SPM and someone who comes to be suspected as setting SPM up. Maybe we shouldn't let that happen?

Then let's try something else. Let me ask you this- with Roa's death is there anyone who is likely to fade away somewhat? Di perhaps? She attracted votes on day 1 and fewer on day 2 and then none yesterday. And Di had very nice standing on Roa's list- right at the top as "probably innocent" (along with Nog).

And conveniently, Di has announced that she will be completely absent today. Is she a WW not only banking on us turning today into a two horse race, but also counting on us giving her the same pass that we gave to Kath yesterday?

And also, has anyone noticed that the victim every night has been from my side of the Atlantic? A coincidence, or strategy? It seems to me that the schedule benefits someone from America, for they can easily be present at the beginning and end of every day, and thus set the tone as well as use their vote well.

Is the WW a European seeking to be rid of its American opponents who find the schedule so accommodating, or is the WW Di, and she thinks that having villagers all from a different region than her will cause the lynchee to emerge from their ranks every time, for they will all be present and arguing at the same time, where as she will be safely gone during the heat of battle, and can use her convenient time-zone to set the tone early and decide the voting late.

What are your thoughts?

11-17-2006, 09:00 PM	#7
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	phantom's vote made Roa 4 Saucy's made me 4 The Dark Lady will have to roll dice, then a head. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-17-2006, 09:01 PM	#8
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Saucy, I wish you'd have understood phantom's reasoning - he was right about me. Time will show. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-17-2006, 09:01 PM	#9
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	After all this, a tie. That's what I was going for an hour ago! __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

11-18-2006, 09:57 PM	#11
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I was about to leap in with posting and give my thoughts, but instead I wish to sit back and observe for a bit. I have what I believe to be a couple of important points to make, but if I post them, I'm afraid that if my thoughts are too compelling in certain areas some of you might just use me as the starting point and take off from there. Instead of that happening I should very much like to see how some of you would choose to start the day yourself and to see which path you would have us follow without anyone else running ahead first. I will post a tally and a voting breakdown of yesterday in the next little while, but that's all for a bit. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-18-2006, 11:36 PM	#12
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Uhg. I very very much wanted to see what would happen if I allowed others to post first. I wanted to keep my eyes open for some things. But timing is against me. I feel the need to speak now, for all of you likely won't give me anything to respond to until I'm in bed, and tomorrow I won't be able to post probably until the eight-hours-left mark. So, grudgingly, here are my thoughts. Roa died? Hmmm..... This selection was not what I expected. Will it throw us off course, or help us zero in on the culprit? The first thing that comes to mind is that Roa's death leaves us with a name- SPM. Early in the day she spent a good deal of time on SPM, and he was at that point her primary suspect along with Esty. Roa's list can be found here. I'm wondering about SPM... the night before, lmp was killed, and when hearing the news I imagine most of you immediately thought of SPM due to the bickering that took place the day before. And then last night, Roa is killed, and her remaining suspect is none other than SPM. Is SPM a WW making ridiculously bold choices and assuming that everyone will think no WW would ever do such a thing, or does someone really really want to set up SPM for a lynch? Regarding the idea that SPM is being set up, Nogrod would be my primary suspect. Not only did he point suspicion towards SPM yesterday, but he also showed some late faith in Roa, and she had him as one of two on her "probably innocent" list, which makes him look good today. But then again, perhaps killing Roa was an attempt to get us to do exactly as I have done, which is make this a two horse race between SPM and someone who comes to be suspected as setting SPM up. Maybe we shouldn't let that happen? Then let's try something else. Let me ask you this- with Roa's death is there anyone who is likely to fade away somewhat? Di perhaps? She attracted votes on day 1 and fewer on day 2 and then none yesterday. And Di had very nice standing on Roa's list- right at the top as "probably innocent" (along with Nog). And conveniently, Di has announced that she will be completely absent today. Is she a WW not only banking on us turning today into a two horse race, but also counting on us giving her the same pass that we gave to Kath yesterday? And also, has anyone noticed that the victim every night has been from my side of the Atlantic? A coincidence, or strategy? It seems to me that the schedule benefits someone from America, for they can easily be present at the beginning and end of every day, and thus set the tone as well as use their vote well. Is the WW a European seeking to be rid of its American opponents who find the schedule so accommodating, or is the WW Di, and she thinks that having villagers all from a different region than her will cause the lynchee to emerge from their ranks every time, for they will all be present and arguing at the same time, where as she will be safely gone during the heat of battle, and can use her convenient time-zone to set the tone early and decide the voting late. What are your thoughts? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

11-17-2006, 08:53 PM	#1
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I had been tending to view Roa as the more likely Wolf than Esty in the latter part of toDay, but I'm not sure what to make of Esty returning at this hour. Any thoughts, Noggie and TP?

11-17-2006, 08:54 PM	#3
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Hehe. Cross-posted with Noggie, who had already answered with his vote ... I could change my vote, or we could leave it to the Dark Lady's machinations ...

11-17-2006, 08:57 PM	#4
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'm inclined to trust you on this Noggie, as you are something of a Roa expert (which doesn't mean I'll blame you tomorrow if it all turns out wrong, rest assured). What say you phantom?

11-17-2006, 08:59 PM	#5
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Gotta do it now, if I'm going to do it. --Roa_Aoife ++Estelyn Telcontar

11-18-2006, 08:27 PM	#10
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	One woman of the village had lain awake, watching the fading wick and flickering flame, touching her fingertips to the melted wax and rolling it to soft putty between them. She had loved the gravedigger as a brother, and she had wept over his senseless death, and she had known... known it could not be long for her. When her companions, her deadly companions, had spoken against her, she had known. She laid awake in the darkness, watching her light dwindle, feeling the draft through the open window she had been certain to close and lock. She knew. She had heard the call, seen the darkest sliver of night in motion. It was time, and she whispered pretty thoughts, sad thoughts, thoughts of days she could not know to herself with brief clarity of finality. "To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow," she murmured, no fear in her eyes, "creeps in this petty place from day to night and night to day, to the last syllable of recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life is nothing. This too brief life is nothing; fleeting and bitter and cruel. We are all but walking shadows." She looked to her ceiling and let her eyes close. A soft tendril breath of breeze unlit her candle, and as the dark came, so did her long goodnight. When the village awoke, their sweet Roa was not amongst them.

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