WW XXIIX - Queer Lodgings

[Meneltarmacil]

Quite simply, it's not often that a wolf actually starts the bandwagon. They'll usually wait unti someone else has posted so as not to look suspicious. I suppose Volo could be double-bluffing there, but it'd be pretty dangerous to have double-bluffed twice at this point.

I'll be silent for a couple of hours or so starting now, by the way.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Meneltarmacil

Quite simply, it's not often that a wolf actually starts the bandwagon. They'll usually wait unti someone else has posted so as not to look suspicious.

First of all. Were I a wolf, I would have loved to start it to avoid any suspicions! Secondly. Please remember what I said: it was not a waggon before Beornómien and Spawn made it such. Voloin couldn't have known he was starting a bandwaggon, neither I that I would be adding to it as there were none at the time we voted. There was no bandwaggon before the last votes made it such.

And following this logic of part-time ignorance we should say that a wolf never wishes to cast a first vote to anyone (as it might be a start of a bandwaggon) which clearly is contrary to the evidence in WW...

Please people, stop being wise after the fact and even try to see it from the point of view of one who actually was there in the end. I didn't know the things you and I know now back then. And Spawn didn't know. And I believe Beornómien didn't. About Voloin I'm not so sure, but that's another matter.

Sorry. I'm getting a bit frustrated with this off-focus discussion.

If you wish, spend your whole Day speculating how I'm such a stupid villain who tries to get especially Eomi to be lynched for whatever reason and with whatever cost as far as not to play it safe instead wisely. Consider this.

If you, on the other hand think I was trying to protect Kathin or / and Glóanna, be my guests and lynch them. They're at the top of my list still (I'll make the rest of my points - as I think I have some new ones too - after I get some sleep).

Originally Posted by Durelin

Nogrod is seeming a little defensive...but right now I can believe that it is due to what Boro has pointed out

If it were just Nori88 ... What else have people been talking about toDay?

[Durelin]

Ah, I forgot, Noggy. People have been so quiet. No wonder you're upset!

In truth, my suspect list:

Volo
Kath
Valier or Lommy...tied for the number three spot.

Kath is just bothering me, and I'm not sure why.

This in particular, though it seems (and very likely might be) trivial:

Originally Posted by Kath

You made fun of the idea that the baddies and Twins had been chosen because their names rhymed, which I'm pretty sure no one else had. That was a bit of Day 1 nonsense but it was still good to see that someone knew it was nonsense.

Now, Kath is very smart. And she herself mentions "Day 1 nonsense." Surely she didn't really think everyone who mentioned the whole rhyming thing was being serious? Personally I can't see how anyone could think anyone was serious about that.


And then there's this:

Originally Posted by Kath

Good to see someone focusing on why spawn was killed, Holby. I was about to ask why no one had yet.

And then she does her lengthy Spawn analysis...hours later, other than that, all she's done is poke Nogrod a few times, perhaps just testing the waters (some very specific waters), maybe trying to get him to slip up, either to out him as a Wolf, or, I think more likely, to get him to incriminate himself.

But back to that quote in particular... Why does she want to look so closely at why Spawn was killed? It's the first Wolf kill pick...Day 1 was prime Wolfing time (pretty much as usual). Spawn was innocent...I think that's plenty enough reason for her to get picked by the wolves, and then there's the fact that she can analyze and all that. Why spend so much time looking for a trail on the first kill?

Distraction from anything worthwhile. Not pointing to anyone specific while still appearing quite helpful.

Maybe (and quite likely) I am reading more into these things than I should, but...whatever. Like there's such a thing in this crazy world with Werewolves, anyway.

Plus, the Kath and Volo connection is a good possibility.

But...why make it so obvious? I still feel like Volo is very likely not innocent...or Kath very likely isn't. But I can't say that both likely are at all. I'm actually sensing a Fenris Wolf. If Volo is a wolf, I'm pretty tempted to say that proves Kath innocent. Is it possible Volo is setting us up for his lynching, and pointing us in a nice wrong direction?

And is one of his Wolfish pals sitting back and laughing as they help the village hone in on him?

Speaking of reading too much into things... I'm going to go for a while, and come back with my mind refreshed...hopefully. I'll have to vote in just a few hours, unfortunately.

[Kitanna]

I'm feeling quite under the weather and will turn in soon. I will probably get on about a half an hour before day ends, but that will have me rushing to vote before deadline. So I cast my vote now in case I sleep through the end of day or I get on with no time to speak and comment properly.

Volo and Lommy have me the most worried. I have stated more than once that Volo seemed to be steering away from Kath, trying to state her innocence. I find it a rather reckless move, but a cunning one at the same time. There is something unsettling in his first post (mainly what was said about Rune). There's something that feels wrong. He has been helpful, but some of his posts have seemed "just helpful enough" to make him appear as an innocent to all eyes. And in his last post of yesterday he tried to get the last voters to either vote for Eomer or myself (a cross-post with the last votes for Eomer I believe), that post looks very odd given its nature of trying to help Kath. In all that I'm not sure what to say about Kath.

Lommy seems slightly more innocent. She went back and forth on her feelings toward Eomer and Kath. I'm surprised she voted for Eomer. The way I look at her vote and the posts leading up to it, it seemed like she was being pressured to do so by various other posters. That eases my mind about her, but not enough to completely remove her from my suspect list. I will continue to watch her closely.

For my vote:

++ Volo

[Kitanna]

I am back to continue looking through Eomer's voters.

Volo started today with a cite of one of Nogrod's posts about Eomer. One that may have led Volo to vote Eomer yesterday, not sure. He also continues his defense of Kath. Then he says this:

His suspicion of Eomi is a mistake, but I'm the last one who can blame for that, except for the fact that it was probably Runi who started seriously talking about Eomi being guilty, here. I wouldn't go as far as voting him, Duriel just is scarier.

I'm not entirely sure how to take this. There's something in his wording that worries me. I can't quite put my finger on it yet...

Moving on, Nogrod was the next voter for Eomer. The first he really mentions any worry over Eomer is when he says:

Orilin and Eomi have seemingly left the house for toDay and not left a lot to be said of them. That I find a bit worrysome.

in post 61. His next post addresses Eomer's Day 1 behavior post. In Nogrod's post 66 he goes into detail about why Eomer is making him worried. This is the same post Volo used at the beginning of the today. He says he finds Eomer's posts fishy and wonders what Eomer is trying to accomplish. He looks at other possible folks he suspects, but he keeps on Eomer.

Then I'm pretty unsettled with Orilin and Eomi. Both have been extremely careful. A bit too careful to my taste. I have made a few notes about Eomi just earlier and will take a look at Orilin soon to see if I can add anything of value that has not been said already.

He waits until late to vote. That seems to be a normal thing for Nogrod though. His vote did tie Eomer with me.

Spawn voted next, but seeing as her innocence is proven I will move on to Lommy. She says that Nogrod is flip-floppy, but also says he is most likely just staying in character. In the same post she says she will probably not vote for Eomer (Spawn, Menel, Volo are included there as well as a reluctance toward Boromir, Nogrod, and Farael). Her next post points to Kath.

One thing in Kath's behaviour rings my alarms.

Really. That sounds very much like a wolfish "I-say-something-good-of-someone-just-for-the-sake-of-saying-good-of-somebody" -comment, since if you take a closer look at my post, what "good points" I can possibly have there? Those were the few first things crossing my mind after reading the thread. The post consist of crying over dead animals, ridiculing rhyme-patterns, making some jokes/corrections about bears and penguins, making one point (though not even a very incrimintaing one) against Nogrod, agreeing about Kitanna seeming suspicious without adding anything new about her, naming a few innocentish people and forbidding people to steal honey. What on earth are the "good points" over there, I wonder.

Next she says Nogrod has some good points about the fishiness of Eomer. In the same post she mentions feeling uneasy about Menel. Next she says she'll probably vote for me or Kath unless she uncovers something about us rereading our posts.

I'm quite at loss. Kathin and Glóanna don't seem as suspicious to me as they seemed before (though I still think they're both a bit suspicious), but I don't particularly suspect anyone else either.

Finally she votes for Eomer. And I'm wondering why. She thought he was a bit fishy, but a few of her last votes indicated she wasn't so suspicious to vote for him, unless I am missing something there. Her vote post said this:

Well, then: Glóanna has contributed more than Eomi.

++Eomi

I'm not sure what knocked Kath off of that completely and that I find unsettling.

Of the three voters of Eomer that live I actually find Volo the most suspicious. He seems to try to steer voting away from Kath. Such action can be taken in a few ways. Most notably to my mind is an attempt to gain the trust of an innocent.
The voter I find the next most suspicious is Lommy. At first she spoke a little of Eomer, but dropped him in favor of Kath and myself and then in her last post of the day had dropped Kath and voted Eomer. A bit baffling to me.