Maps - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

06-09-2002, 09:53 AM

I don't know about you guys but when I read a book I need to know where and when I am. I like to look it up in a map and know details of that specific moment of our History.

That could have been a problem with Lord of the Rings but Tolkien thought of everything and provided us with a map and a rich History.

Do you feel the same way?

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Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-09-2002, 10:07 AM

Tolkien is the best author I think because of those reasons. He wrote well, of course, but he described everything to the fullest. Every detail. And including maps is just a stoke of genius!!!

Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-09-2002, 10:07 AM

Oh, don't think I said this, but welcome to the Downs!!! Have fun, and post often! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Luinsewiel · 06-09-2002, 06:30 PM

I love when books have maps it puts everything into prospective. If LotR didn't have a map i would be completly lost, I have trouble picturing things in my mind [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] that's why i like to watch movies of book theni have an idea of what a character might look like [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . Without maps in LotR you wouldn't have as good an idea of how far the fellowship travelled.(my english is terrible i know)
Welcome to the downs from me also i hope this you have lots of fun here!
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[ June 09, 2002: Message edited by: Luinsewiel ]

Aosama, the Wandering Star · 06-09-2002, 07:51 PM

I don't think I'd have understood anything without a map.
My simplicity aside, maps tend to lend a whole new level to the reader's comprehension. It seems as if, because it's charted out on a map, the story becomes more real, in a way. Every step of the Fellowship can be mapped out and documented on paper due to Tolkien's wonderful maps. I can see how different areas relate to each other. Case in point: If I didn't have the maps, I would wonder why no one from Gondor, Rohan, or Lothlorien ever knew Hobbits even existed. Wouldn't they be neighbours? Looking at the maps, I can now realize - oh yes, not only do they have hundreds - perhaps thousands - of leagues seperating them, there is also a mountain range between them. Silly me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Mithril · 06-09-2002, 08:05 PM

Oh, I definately feel the same way about maps. Without the maps in LOTR, I wouldn't have understood why no one knew of hobbits either. Also, it helps you to understand the difficulty of their journey, and how far they had to go. I also, have a hard visualizing things sometimes, so the maps helped me. I also like to know when things happen, so the history also helps.

Ithaeliel · 06-09-2002, 10:11 PM

Maps help me a lot too. When I'm writing fanfic, I liketo know where exactly the people are going and thanks to that little scale I can estimate just how long it's going to take them to get there.
Except, and has anyone noticed this before, the original map that Tolkien himself drew and the newest one by Shelly Shapiro are laid out slightly different? Different distances, I mean. Kinda makes me somewhat doubtful if I want to use the new one, but that's the only one I have access to.

akhtene · 07-08-2002, 08:42 PM

I found this interactive map. Looks fun to me.TRY HERE

Neferchoirwen · 07-09-2002, 08:31 AM

I NEED a map! and I love especially ond ones. I'm obssessed with maps when it comes to literature, and without it, like every one else, I am indeed lost!

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-09-2002, 08:45 AM

There's a book called The Atlas of Middle-Earth. I can't remember who it's by, though. It's just full of maps of everything. Even ME vegetation

Aragost · 07-12-2002, 10:13 AM

I dont like that many books without maps theyre too boring.maps are good.I love maps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Raefindel · 07-12-2002, 10:20 AM

Middle Earth Tours

This site might be a little easier for most of us to navagate- it's in English.

piosenniel · 07-12-2002, 11:49 AM

I love maps! So, here is a link to an excellent resource for Middle-earth maps:

Maps

Enjoy!!

akhtene · 07-12-2002, 03:39 PM

Wow! They are fantastic! THANKS!!!

tangerine · 07-17-2002, 07:35 AM

The only trouble is that the maps of the First Age were totally irrelevant by the second age, So it would be difficult To figure out where exactly those old places once were, like Doriath and Gondolin.

maleliel · 07-19-2002, 02:15 PM

I agree and I love the maps too!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] But do you guys know the map of Middle-Earth that Christopher Tolkien re-drew in the back of Unfinshed Tales? If you do then, the little island Himling is the only part left of Beleriand and used to be the Hill of Himring, Maedros's realm. Well you already know all that, but do you think the Elves travel to it and stuff? Because it's part of their history and stuff. What do you guys think?
Don't make fun of me, I know I ramble on too much!!! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

06-09-2002, 09:53 AM	#1
Elizabeth Guest Posts: n/a	Maps I don't know about you guys but when I read a book I need to know where and when I am. I like to look it up in a map and know details of that specific moment of our History. That could have been a problem with Lord of the Rings but Tolkien thought of everything and provided us with a map and a rich History. Do you feel the same way? [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

06-09-2002, 10:07 AM	#2
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	Tolkien is the best author I think because of those reasons. He wrote well, of course, but he described everything to the fullest. Every detail. And including maps is just a stoke of genius!!! __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-09-2002, 10:07 AM	#3
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	Oh, don't think I said this, but welcome to the Downs!!! Have fun, and post often! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-09-2002, 06:30 PM	#4
Luinsewiel Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Great Grey-Green Greasy Limpopo River, All Set About With Fever Trees Posts: 57	I love when books have maps it puts everything into prospective. If LotR didn't have a map i would be completly lost, I have trouble picturing things in my mind [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] that's why i like to watch movies of book theni have an idea of what a character might look like [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . Without maps in LotR you wouldn't have as good an idea of how far the fellowship travelled.(my english is terrible i know) Welcome to the downs from me also i hope this you have lots of fun here! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [ June 09, 2002: Message edited by: Luinsewiel ] __________________ Take David Suzuki's nature challenge today ---> www.davidsuzuki.org

06-09-2002, 08:05 PM	#6
Mithril Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 21	Oh, I definately feel the same way about maps. Without the maps in LOTR, I wouldn't have understood why no one knew of hobbits either. Also, it helps you to understand the difficulty of their journey, and how far they had to go. I also, have a hard visualizing things sometimes, so the maps helped me. I also like to know when things happen, so the history also helps. __________________ Education is the progressive realization of your ignorance.

06-09-2002, 07:51 PM	#5
Aosama, the Wandering Star Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle-Earth Posts: 210	I don't think I'd have understood anything without a map. My simplicity aside, maps tend to lend a whole new level to the reader's comprehension. It seems as if, because it's charted out on a map, the story becomes more real, in a way. Every step of the Fellowship can be mapped out and documented on paper due to Tolkien's wonderful maps. I can see how different areas relate to each other. Case in point: If I didn't have the maps, I would wonder why no one from Gondor, Rohan, or Lothlorien ever knew Hobbits even existed. Wouldn't they be neighbours? Looking at the maps, I can now realize - oh yes, not only do they have hundreds - perhaps thousands - of leagues seperating them, there is also a mountain range between them. Silly me [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

06-09-2002, 10:11 PM	#7
Ithaeliel Cornus Caliga Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Five-hundred-twenty-five thousand, six hundred minutes from here Posts: 710	Maps help me a lot too. When I'm writing fanfic, I liketo know where exactly the people are going and thanks to that little scale I can estimate just how long it's going to take them to get there. Except, and has anyone noticed this before, the original map that Tolkien himself drew and the newest one by Shelly Shapiro are laid out slightly different? Different distances, I mean. Kinda makes me somewhat doubtful if I want to use the new one, but that's the only one I have access to. __________________ That best portion of a good man's life, His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. .................William Wordsworth

07-08-2002, 08:42 PM	#8
akhtene Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: stronghold of the North Posts: 390	I found this interactive map. Looks fun to me.TRY HERE __________________ Где найти мне сил, чтобы вернуться через века, Чтобы ты - простил?.. А трава разлуки высока...

07-09-2002, 08:31 AM	#9
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	I NEED a map! and I love especially ond ones. I'm obssessed with maps when it comes to literature, and without it, like every one else, I am indeed lost! __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

07-09-2002, 08:45 AM	#10
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	There's a book called The Atlas of Middle-Earth. I can't remember who it's by, though. It's just full of maps of everything. Even ME vegetation __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

07-12-2002, 10:13 AM	#11
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	I dont like that many books without maps theyre too boring.maps are good.I love maps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-12-2002, 10:20 AM	#12
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	Middle Earth Tours This site might be a little easier for most of us to navagate- it's in English. __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

07-12-2002, 11:49 AM	#13
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	I love maps! So, here is a link to an excellent resource for Middle-earth maps: Maps Enjoy!! __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

07-12-2002, 03:39 PM	#14
akhtene Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: stronghold of the North Posts: 390	Wow! They are fantastic! THANKS!!! __________________ Где найти мне сил, чтобы вернуться через века, Чтобы ты - простил?.. А трава разлуки высока...

07-17-2002, 07:35 AM	#15
tangerine Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 100	The only trouble is that the maps of the First Age were totally irrelevant by the second age, So it would be difficult To figure out where exactly those old places once were, like Doriath and Gondolin.

07-19-2002, 02:15 PM	#16
maleliel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 38	I agree and I love the maps too!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] But do you guys know the map of Middle-Earth that Christopher Tolkien re-drew in the back of Unfinshed Tales? If you do then, the little island Himling is the only part left of Beleriand and used to be the Hill of Himring, Maedros's realm. Well you already know all that, but do you think the Elves travel to it and stuff? Because it's part of their history and stuff. What do you guys think? Don't make fun of me, I know I ramble on too much!!! [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future"

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