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Old 01-21-2007, 01:02 PM   #1
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I would say if you want kudos Nilp for your great win, maybe next time you can actually play without your RL excuses.
I wouldn't say that Nilp used his RL situation as an excuse. He cannot help his time zone nor his RL committments. I think that he participated just about as much as could be expected - and moreso than many "quiet ones" have done in the past.

Nilp was the victorious Wolf, however, not because he was quiet, but because he came to be seen in the closing stages almost as a presumed innocent. He should take credit for having achieved that (through his astute voting), as should Volo for helping to create the conditions which led to it (with his damjing analysis).

Even though I am a loudmouth myself, I have always supported the "quiet Wolf" tactic as a legitimate one. Wolves come in all shapes, sizes and manners of verbosity - it is up to the innocents to find them. As I said, Holby has past form on this, and should have been subject to greater pressure in consequence. Volo can hardly be described as a quiet one and, as I said, I believe that Nilp contributed about as much as he was able.

I am afarid that us loudmouths have to face the fact that we are more liable to turn on each other, as innocents, than investigate the quiet ones. It is as well, as a loudmouth, to bear that in mind for the future.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:07 PM   #2
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I am afarid that us loudmouths have to face the fact that we are more liable to turn on each other, as innocents, than investigate the quiet ones. It is as well, as a loudmouth, to bear that in mind for the future.
SPM you are quite right... thus my insistence on lynching the quiet ones first thing in the game but truth is, I wanted to post to ask if you'd want to join another WW game soon... I still have something to settle with you.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:10 PM   #3
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Argh!!! When I saw Nogrod being suspected after I protected him... I was biting my nails trying to figure out of a legal way to warn you all, but that is quite impossible after you are dead.
Oops ... sorry Farael!

Good win wolves. After death I had Holby and Rune as the evil-doers, never imagined it would be Nilp! Killing spawn first night was a hell of a bluff so nice job.

And of course kudos to Oddwen for some truly gruesome deaths.
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:41 PM   #4
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Nilp came too late to oppose the killing of Spawn, as I said, we were going to kill Nilp at first. I didn't have a clue about them having a connection...
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Old 01-21-2007, 01:49 PM   #5
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I am afarid that us loudmouths have to face the fact that we are more liable to turn on each other, as innocents, than investigate the quiet ones. It is as well, as a loudmouth, to bear that in mind for the future.
Surely. We do not make enough noise of the value of ourselves?

But to be a bit serious: just looking at the last two Days of the game was a bit depressive. One or two posts per person and then voting... It's a game, I admit, but not the game of werewolf I myself enjoy personally. As Saucepan Man said, I also agree that playing a wolf quietly is a legitimate strategy. It's up to us villagers to bring that strategy down... and we failed this time.

But it was fun as long as it lasted... and it was nice to see a game that lasted over the few preliminary Days also. The dynamics of four-five players left are a lot different than the ones in a crowded village.

Special thanks to Moddwen for her ingenious WW-setting in Beorn's Hall and especially for the tune! I really loved it!

Congrats to the wolves for a game well played!
Volo played nicely, not the least with his "framing" of Nilp, and even as I had my doubts about him in the end of Day2 he nicely escaped my attention on Day3 as I had to defend myself (how stupid of me...).
Holby was just an impressive quiet wolf: so sensible and reasoned! Great game! Had you taken a few a bit more daring steps on Day3 or 4 you might have lived even longer...
Nilp: I'm afraid the "lynch Nilp on Day1" -campaigns will gather momentum after this, but you played it beautifully, using peoples prejudgements to your advantage. Great playing!

Boro: Just as I was beginning to trust you we both died... well, maybe next time?

Durelin: Well played! Unfortunately it was not enough this time. I kind of trusted you (trust being a relative concept in WW-games) from early on. Sadly we were pulled down and badly this time. But it was not your fault!

Kath: How could we do that? I was hunting you down for wrong reasons and you killed me for bad reasons... Hopefully we can make it better next time?

Lommy: I just felt you were innocent because of the panic you had in the end of Day1 voting. Someone might have acted it, but you felt sincere enough for me.

Anguirel: I had deciced not to suspect you this time from the beginning beforehand and promised myself to ignore any that kind of sentiments to leave room for actual points. My God it was hard as you cried a wolf almost from the very beginning - and how wrong I was with you... again!

Rune & Valier & Menel: It's funny how I can see you all as villains so easily! You all topped my suspicions (inside my head) from the very beginning. But I was sooo wrong with you... as I always seem to be.

Farael: I'm getting a bit worried about this mutual understanding between us that has developed of late... but hopefully we can try it again on the same side with the same success we had the last time.

As always, it's sad to see good players going down on the early Days/Nights like Spawn and Kitanna... but one can't help it.

Eomer: I know you can make the difference in a game. This time you were given no chance for it. Sad, said as truly as one can say it in retrospect being one who helped your downfall...

Naria: I'll hope to see see you in a game again with a bit more time on your hands. I know you can make a difference!
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:42 PM   #6
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I must say I had absolutely nothing right this game except saying Nogrod, Spawn, and Durelin were innocent. Completely baffled, kudos to the wolves.

I was sure Ang was a wolf and after poorfully lynching Kath, I was hitting myself for not pulling the trigger...but umm that didn't really work out too well.

Durelin made the comment of me being 'Boro lite' and that's when I tried to get back into things, as I had reached this big stage of laziness...and I wanted to get back into form. For the last 5-6 games before this I was either an innocent lynched on Day 1, a Seer who got some luck and found wolves early, or a wolf and I knew who to go after and how to attack them. I didn't really have to do a lot of work and go searching for things, so I was into this lazy mode. And until Durelin made that comment I was completely lost already.

Congrats to Oddwen for setting this scenario up, I'm sure the wolves were enjoying the three most talkative people at eachother's throats the entire time. And congrats again to the wolves.
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Old 01-21-2007, 02:51 PM   #7
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Oh my goodness, the village really did "drown in blood" as a certain lynchee once said they deserved to.

I kept watching, though, and it was entertaining stuff, thanks to every player and the mod. Congratulations to the wolves and especially cousin Nilp for the victory.

I have to say I enjoyed the last few days and the simple posting that came with them. You only need one post a day. Most games are just filled with clutter that gets in the way.
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Old 01-21-2007, 03:17 PM   #8
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Nicely done wolves.
And good modding Oddwen.
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