WW XXIX Dor-en-Gaur

[Thinlómien]

Dear gentlemen!

Originally Posted by Ang

And a Cobbleresque nasty, who I personally suspect is Thinlomien, purely because she keeps talking about these issues and leaving less time for wolf-hunting.

Originally Posted by Boro

Thinlo doesn't sit right with me. Most of her posts have been about hunters, roles, and stuff that we shouldn't dwell on for so long.

Originally Posted by Ang

Roles and stuff aren't the usual subject matter for a wolf...or really for Thinlomien usually. I've usually seen her as a discreet villager or a cagey Gifted in the past...all this garrulity about the village's shiny trinketry in the way of Rangers and stuff takes me rather by surprise.

Sorry! (Oooh, she apologises for something, she must be a werecreature! ) But I have a pretty clear idea of these roles (though I'm not sure, of course), and when everybody's so confused and keep disagreeing with me, I'll try to explain the way I see the matter, however side issue the issue happens to be. That's my way (be it good or bad) of doing things. I don't personally think I'm concentrating (meaning taking time from wolf-hunting to that) on the speacial roles - I've not pondered about this so much - but rather, I'm taking part in that discussion too.

~*~

Originally Posted by Ang

4. Lommy for Durelin
. . . They've formed something of an alliance since.

??? I suspect Durelin, how can you say we're allied? I think she has fair points about you, that's as close as our relationship gets to "alliance".

Originally Posted by Lal

Now, Farael's post has gone that far that I cannot now see how they could possibly ever hope to pull off something quite that outrageous.

I disagree. If I and Farael were both wolves, wouldn't that be the perfect shield from your suspicions of our alliance, taking it even further? What if me-wolf actually did get lynched? Farael would be innocent in the eyes of village and could win the game based on that. Of course a wolf-Farael would be diminishing the wolves' kills numbers here and it might not be worth the trust he'd gain... But I will not dwell on this because the scenario is (from my point of view) pointless, since I know it can't be.

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That was a pretty unconstructive post. I'll be back with more substance after I've reread the whole village - or at least Day2 - then I might have a clearer picture about this all. At the moment my suspicions are pretty much the same than they were earlier this day.

[Thinlómien]

I forgot this from my previous post: Boro, you wonder my vote yesterday. I just realised that I had to give up the illusion of "not voting good players on Day1 if I have no good reason", since pretty much everyone nowadays is a good player. Losing innocent Durelin would have been no more bad than losing any other innocent, unless she's a gifted.


Again, the votes are getting pretty wide-spread...

Originally Posted by Rune

Yes that is right Morm, I only write things I do not belive. . .

???

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Quick notes on some people after a reread...

Lal, as has been pointed out, was all agreeing on Day1. After it was pointed out, she became a bit more "independent". Hmmm...? Also, she has a weirdobsession of the Volo-lynchers, and her obsession only started after I had remarked no one was concentrating on those bandwagoners...
And she also keeps using those horrendous british words!

morm has beautifully slipped under the radar for someone like him... I wouldn't be surprised if he was a wolf, all this "new tactics" talk and all...

I start to see why people are suspecting Firefoot, yet she does not ring the alarm yet...

If Mith's a wolf, she's a darn cunning one, acting out that confused, telling me the wolves seem to have three kills per night...

Kath seems quite innocent.

Anguirel, I feel, might be the cobbleresque thing (as he himself prefers to call it), since he pretty much throws suspicions and accusations in all directions and thus keeps this village in a state of confusion. He also speculates continiously about who the cobbler might be (keeps repeating it's me or Farael) and he was on admittedly suspicious-looking Boro's side on day1. Maybe he (as he generally keeps suspecting him on day1s) thought he was a wolf and tried to protect him. All his vote switching too, that would fit to the picture. A cunning and ambitious cobbler Ang might be, not someone to just make it all a big joke.

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I'll probably vote morm toDay, but I may also vote Durelin or Farael.

EDIT: xed with everything since my last post

[Thinlómien]

Lots of things happening!

I actually think that Dury's last post was pretty innocent-ish.

I'll leave now (to let Noggie work on the computer ) and to study some spanish for the exam, but I'll be back in an hour.

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Anguirel, I feel, might be the cobbleresque thing (as he himself prefers to call it), since he pretty much throws suspicions and accusations in all directions and thus keeps this village in a state of confusion. He also speculates continiously about who the cobbler might be (keeps repeating it's me or Farael) and he was on admittedly suspicious-looking Boro's side on day1. Maybe he (as he generally keeps suspecting him on day1s) thought he was a wolf and tried to protect him. All his vote switching too, that would fit to the picture. A cunning and ambitious cobbler Ang might be, not someone to just make it all a big joke.

That's almost as absurd as my denunciation of Durelin! You can't blame the difficult situation we're in on my brilliant machinations. Everybody always assumes I'm good at this stuff. You've fallen for my scheming image. I'm actually deeply inept, occasionally lucky, and more usually chronically, cursedly unfortunate. I've occasionally done well through the inspiring effects of being partnered with the gorgeous Lalaith.

But I am serious about Durelin, you know. My vote stands. I think the smear campaign 'gainst Firefoot is more than circumstantial.

[Durelin]

You're trying to link me with the suspicion of Firefoot? Day 1, I was suspicious of her. She doesn't stand out to me anymore at all. Have I voiced any suspicion of her toDay?

Naturally, your evidence, like everyone else's, is circumstantial. You're making the assumption that Firefoot is innocent in order to say that I am guilty.

There's nothing wrong with that if you really feel I'm guilty, but just remember that you are making a specific assumption...one that I am making, as well, for the time being.

I'm also going to assume you're innocent for now, because I feel that you are. No, not because I want you to like me and therefore not vote for me.

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by Durelin

No, not because I want you to like me and therefore not vote for me.

Now that I can believe. Never fear, I like you anyway. I still think you ate Roa and Mac with artichoke hearts though.

But it might have been tartare sauce. Or, who can tell, zabaglione...

I've chucked the Malta talk, so I'm going to be hanging around quite a bit. Who knows, I might even change my mind. Not that I've ever been known for doing that before...

Next project - a List of Suspects and What I Think.

[Boromir88]

Thinlo, if you are around...what do you think about Firefoot?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Thinlo, if you are around...what do you think about Firefoot?

I don't honestly know. My first impression was that she's innocent, but after numerous rereads and some good points against her I'm not too sure anymore... I think I'd rather see Durelin dead than her, but I need to think more about it.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

But I am serious about Durelin, you know. My vote stands. I think the smear campaign 'gainst Firefoot is more than circumstantial.

I don't know whether it's right to comment after voting, but anyway...I'm wary of Durelin myself, she seems a powerful opponent you wouldn't want against you, but her defence of Volo was justified as he was just so outrageously gobby that he couldn't have been a wolf. I think you were doubtful yourself. Anyway, I'm going with the most solid thing I've seen so far in a big spongy quicksand of a game. And yes, Lommy, I do indeed have an obsession - that's because I have a hunch based on evidence. Who was it first pointed out that evidence of a link between Mac and Roa's deaths? Lommy suggests it in 214 and Eomer explicity in 221. I trust them both so I'll stick.

Time for my Swingometer:

Farael -> Lommy (Lommy 1)
Durelin -> Rikae (Lommy 1, Rikae 1)
Gil-galad -> Farael (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1)
Rikae -> Mormegil (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1)
Rune -> Durelin (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 1)
Kath -> Firefoot (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 1, Firefoot 1)
Anguirel -> Durelin (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 2, Firefoot 1)
Eomer -> Rune (Lommy 1, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 2, Firefoot 1, Rune 1)
Morm -> Lommy (Lommy 2, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 2, Firefoot 1, Rune 1
Lal -> Firefoot (Lommy 2, Rikae 1, Farael 1, Morm 1, Durelin 2, Firefoot 2, Rune 1)

With votes still to come from: Lommy, Boro and Mith. I have the feeling that it will be Durelin or Rune tonight.

[Mithalwen]

Side issue but anyone who thinks Boro is bluffing - check this post

[Mithalwen]

I still distrust Lal but this is perhaps not the moment to go for a lone crusade. I am leaning towards Rune but I am not certain.. however ..I really want to go soon .. bit of a dilemma given the seriouslness of the situation haizzzzzzzzz

Not inclined ot vote for Morm, or Rikae or firefoot of current voteessince they haven't rung alarm bells..of course they may just be subtle....

[Thinlómien]

I'd love to vote morm, but it'd be quite pointless at this phase...

[Boromir88]

Well Mith, if Lal's a wolf I deserve to be dead because she has such a beautiful way with words and has been one of the most active villagers today. Her insight has truly been remarkable. Lal warned before she was not so new to this, but I would still expect some sort of reserved attitude if she was a wolf. Lal I think has contributed the most useful 'evidence' (if you want to use such a word).

I'm curious as to why there are no alarms being raised to you about Firefoot? Any particular reason for feeling this way about her?

[Firefoot]

Agreed, though it's a pity that the chance of getting morm lynched toDay just went whizzzzzing by.

Well, if you, me, and... someone else...?

[Firefoot]

I'm really starting to hate my schedule. It makes me look horrible.

My first vote yesterday was made in something of a rush since I woke up late and didn't have much time. Then I surprisingly made it home to have to catch up to a whole bunch of stuff, so even though I voted how I really thought, it looked like I joined a bandwagon for Volo just because I had to read everything at once.

Now today I haven't been able to post at all, and there's a whole coalition forming against me. Ugh. And now I have to respond to everything... and it seems terribly jumbled and rushed. Here goes anyway.

Firefoot wanted me lynched, than suddenly changed and unconditionally accepted me as the hunter. Kind of odd, it came off to me as 'Oh you're the hunter. I'm sorry, time to change.'

I don't understand this accusation. He claimed to be the hunter - what am I supposed to do? "He's says he's the hunter, let's lynch him anyway to find out if it's true"? I haven't "unconditionally" accepted you as the hunter, and even said so yesterday. I don't understand why it would have made sense for me to leave my vote for you.

I am still extremely suspicious of Ang and would like to vote for him today - however, if I need to save myself, I'll vote for someone else. Unfortunately, I'm not very suspicious of Durelin or Lommy - hopefully someone else would pick up a vote if this is how it works out. Otherwise I think Lommy would get my vote.

I have been thinking about Farael's insistance that Lommy is a wolf - especially with claims like "trust me, she's a wolf." It makes me wonder if he doesn't have some seer-like ability... but everyone's saying that this is pretty normal for him, so maybe not. Farael kind of confuses me.

And Lal - my vote is still to come, as well...