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Old 02-26-2007, 02:29 PM   #1
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Rikae I believe would fight back if she'd be a werecreature. So how she is that calm and quiet?
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:32 PM   #2
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Okay. From between Garin and Mänwe I'd think Mänwe not being a were-faithful (too reckless for that) but possibly a cobbler. There is something cobbleresque in his one track mind stuff...

Garin is just a mystery to me still. A very-very jumpy wolf or just a plain innocent who always gets lynched? Or now as he finally is a werecreature he's even more jumpy than normally?

Oh my.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:34 PM   #3
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Please Mith, if you have any fresh ideas tell us... although I know the history of last minute "fresh ideas" as they tend to turn out into disasters more often than not if they are taken in at last minutes.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:36 PM   #4
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Ok Rikae, I'll buy what you've said. Now, given you've had a dream already, tell us what you've seen. In your opinion, is it ok to switch to Garin?
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:38 PM   #5
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Actually sorry, arrgh, what was I thinking.

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Old 02-26-2007, 02:39 PM   #6
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Certainly, Rikae shouldn't reveal anything until Tomorrow.
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I think Mänwe might be more a cobbler than Garin a were-faithful. But hard to say...
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:04 PM   #8
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Garin voters

TGWBS - first vote, put Garin in the running
Kitanna - second, put Garin in second
Rune - third, tied Garin with Rikae
Holby - fourth, tied Garin with Rikae
Durelin - fifth, put Garin in lead
Roa - sixth, no real impact on lynch

Holby's dead, and I can't analyze myself. So...

TGWBS, Day 1

1st post - doesn't like Day 1 banter, says innocents tend to get lynched for "spurious" evidence, banter with Kath, points out that suspicion tends to fall on the loud, lists the quiet, questions Nogrod, SPM, and Roa for Glirdan suspicion

2nd post - more banter with Kath, clarifies that the "prophesy" was a joke, and truly suspects for quietness

(For someone who says he doesn't like the banter, he's engaging in it quite a bit.)

3rd post - Accepts SPM's explanation for Glirdan, also retracts question to Roa, wonders why Durelin is worried about Glirdan but not Kath, also asks Nogord why he picked out Glirdan and not Kath, voting record, feelings on villagers: Innocent- Nogrod, SPM; Faithful- Mith, Manwe, Rikae; Slightly suspicious- Glirdan, Gil-galad, The Might; Wants to hear more from mith about gifted question, wants Rikae to explain her vote, wants Gil to explain his hunches

(Seems straight forward, but I wonder why he keeps hinting towards Kath. Also, with the voting record and lists, it feels like he's trying to beef up his post and make it seem more substantial than it really is.)

4th post - Disagrees with Holby, says mith's statement is we have to judge her on since it's all she's said

5th post - Asks Garin why he voted for Nogrod, thinks the only reason is, "If he were faithful, he would be dangerous."

6th post - tells Rikae he couldn't find her notice on the Admin thread, isn't convinced of either Rikae's or Mith's evidence, says Garin stands out the most, says we better get rid of him, Votes Garin, leaves for the Day

(Something about this last post seems... forced somehow. In fact, every post he's made is filled with the air of finality that I just don't like.)

Kitanna next....
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:34 PM   #9
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Kitanna, Day 1

1st post - most of her thoughts have been stated by others, willing to over look Glirdan's first post if he can come up with some substance later, leaves

2nd post - doesn't understand Manwe's logic, thinks he just randomly grouped three other people with Nogrod, not much explanation for it

3rd post - suggest Manwe alleviates mistrust with some explanation, corrects him about her thoughts on Glirdan

4th post - Has only had the chance to skim, and Rikae's vote is the only thing of interest

(What happened with Manwe? Did she just drop it? Why?)

5th vote - Can see Rikae's logic for voting Manwe, but is concerned about the timing, hopes Rikae will come back, accepts Manwe's response to her questions, feels better about him, says Glirdan seemed normal, but Nogrod jumped on it as alienated from the village, points out that no one mentioned Gil-galad's post, not sure she'd label Manwe as harsh, finds Garin's vote for Nogrod and then switch to Rikae very odd, has to leave for class, Votes Garin, says his vote for Nogrod was just odd.

(This post bothers me. She says she can understand why Rikae voted for Manwe, but she seems content to exonerate him all together. A case of "a row just blowing over," as someone else said. Also, she too accused Nogrod of "jumping on" Glirdan. I'm starting to suspect a triad between SPM, Manwe, and Kitanna. The question is, who's the fourth?)

Next Rune, and then Durelin, and then I'll be leaving for the night (RL), I think.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:43 PM   #10
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Durelin I did not specifically say nor was I secretly alluding to analysis being 'wolfish' my intention was only to draw a parallel with what others have said on the 'helpful' issue. That being, the Faithful's may want to appear useful as though they are on the ordo's side. That was my intended meaning. I can see as plain as anyone that analysis is useful.

And on my point on banter, well I admit, my motive was partly one of making a point that it should be part of the game. But, have we not seen Legate's 'mood' toward it. Perhaps he is unable to decipher the banter from the real, he is edgy, and finds it hard to interpret...perhaps making his work as a Faithful harder?

Oh and Roa, I think you missed a part of her post where she then states that she understands my logic for those I chose, whether that helps or not I don't know, just thought i'd add it.

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Old 02-28-2007, 08:12 AM   #11
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Well, I've thought about it a bit, and I don't think a shortlist would work. The wolves would have four votes out of 15, which would be enough to influence others or save a compatriot.

Now something that confuses me about Day 1 is the Nogrod-Roa-SpM triangle. I commented on Nogrod and SpM sparring - a result, I believe, of their both being loud, rather than Faithful. Neither of their cases seems to be based on logic, - SpM accused Nogrod for encouraging people to talk, and Nogrod attacks SpM for making a lot of his statement encouraging people to talk. I feel, as earlier, that they are both innocent.

What interests me in all this is Tar-Miroa. Why did she latch onto Nogrod - something Nogrod himself was wary of? Did she accept SpM's accusation of Nogrod, thus thinking Nogrod was Faithful, and so attack what she thought was an innocent SpM? If so, why? SpM's accusation of Nogrod was not terribly convincing.

I suppose it's not really worth speculating on it. We'll never know; Tar-Miroa won't tell us. And it's not very important anyway.

On to analyses of Lalaith, Brinniel and perhaps Thinlo after that outburst.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:40 PM   #12
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Wow, there were a lot more people around then I thought. I guess I jumped the gun thinking voting Garin was my only option. Argh.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:41 PM   #13
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:43 PM   #14
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I'm not at all sure about either Garin or Manwe, I think both too bold for wolvishness. Between the two I'm more inclined to go for Manwe as obviously our seer must be safe.

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Old 02-26-2007, 02:32 PM   #15
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:35 PM   #16
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Had a few moments and thought I'd check up on the end of the day.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikae
And here you are about to lynch your seer.
Well, that's great.

I'll solve the dilema for you.

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He's the one tied with Rikae, after all.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:39 PM   #17
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Lalaith probably would be my choice since I can't decide about Roa and Spm. Usually Lalaith seems fine to me and now she doesn't. Every time I have played with her before seh has either been ordo of gifted. I think I may be playing a Lalith wolf for the first time. But I might be prejudiced.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:40 PM   #18
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Quite... unless she has a wolf. We have one known innocent (assuming she is truthful and that is enough for a single ranger) . Assuming we don't manage to lynch the ranger
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Okay. If there is someone still thinking I'll leave the door open as I think this more likely a hit to the baddies...

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Long the Númenoreans debated their next step, even though some still seemed to be too shocked to talk much. It was clear to them that there were Faithfuls among them and therefore one of them had to die. But who should that be?

After much back and forth it was agreed that Garin should be lynched.

“But why me?” Garin asked shocked “I serve the Lord Melkor like the next of us. I cannot believe you doubt my faith and devotedness!”

“Well, we don’t really do that, to be honest,” answered the guy who be short “but your ways of worship seem strange to us, and, frankly, we don’t have anybody better.”

“But can you not see that this is madness!?”

“You see, Garin, it is an evil hour that puts such a choice on us, but we cannot help it.” said Kitanna “Prove your faith in Melkor by accepting your death as a thing inevitable and honourable!”

What?? No way!”

But more he was not able to say. Silently Holbytlass took up her huge scythe and approached Garin from behind, and in this moment, with one skilled swing, she decapitated him and Garin lay dead at the villager’s feet.

“Search his body!” ordered Durelin, but all they found was a talisman that proved Garin’s belief in Melkor and Annatar, the god who is his prophet. Garin was no Faithful, but one of them.


Crestfallen the Númenoreans left the peak of Meneltarma and went back to their huts as the sun was setting and it was getting dark.

“Now that I get to think about it, couldn’t we have searched Garin before we killed him?” asked Hookbill, the Goomba, as they descended the hill.

“I think the way we handled it is a quite proven method. And if it works, I don’t see any reason to change it at all.” Roa answered composed.

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The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One


The Living:

Brinniel
Durelin
Gil-Galad
Glirdan
the guy who be short
Holbytlass
Hookbill the Goomba
Kath
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mänwe
The Might
Mithalwen
Nogrod
Rikae
Roa_Aoife
Rune Son of Bjarne
The Saucepan Man
Thinlómien



Wolves, send me your kill. Seer, send me your dream. Ranger, send me your protectee. Hunter, send me your list. It would be best if you do so until about one hour before the deadline, so I have time to write the narration.

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Long Holbytlass lay awake that night. Thoughts kept on surging into her mind. She had killed a person, and not just some misguided and death-deserving Faithful, but one of their kind.

What has she done?

Finally, she got out of her bed and made her way back to the Meneltarma, where her horrid deed took place, and where Garin’s body lay unburied.

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The next morning, the villagers made themselves on their way, too. Both Holbytlass and The Might, but nobody else, were missing, but the two were not to be found in their huts. Then, on the top of the hill, they recovered them. The bodies of Holbytlass and The Might seemed to rest upon the corpse of Garin, but on closer inspection, both were found out to be dead.

“There is a letter!” cried Mithalwen, and then she read it alound:


Dear respectable remaining residents of the Island of Westernesse,

I can no longer live with the guilt I have brought upon me and I will now try to correct my fault. There is only one way in which Garin’s death can be undone, and nothing else is left to do for me in this hour: I will sacrifice my own blood to pray to Melkor and bring Garin back.

Tell Garin I’m sorry for what I have done, and that I now have paid for it.

Your Holbytlass.


But under it, more has been scribbled hastily, and in a different writing:


Didn’t work! Didn’t work! Need more blood! Need more blood!

Yours deceasingly,
The Might


...and splatters of dried blood surrounded it.


“Well, indeed it doesn’t seem to have worked.” observed the Legate of Amon Lanc, examining Garin’s body, which looked as decapitated and as dead as before.

“Of course it didn’t work!” Rikae added resolutely “How do we expect Melkor the Great to have mercy upon us, when there are still Faithfuls among us? Melkor is a god of the strong, mind you! Once the Faithfuls fertilise the ground, the dead who believed in Him will rise again and we all shall be deathless henceforth.

Let us be thankful nobody died by the hand of the Faithfuls this night. But right now, there is work for us to do!”



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The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One
Holbytlass (ordo) - committed suicide to revive Garin in Night Two
The Might (ordo) - committed suicide to help Holbytlass reviving Garin in Night Two


The Living:

Brinniel
Durelin
Gil-Galad
Glirdan
the guy who be short
Hookbill the Goomba
Kath
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mänwe
Mithalwen
Nogrod
Rikae
Roa_Aoife
Rune Son of Bjarne
The Saucepan Man
Thinlómien



Wolves, stop pming. Hunter and cobbler, send me another list. Now let the Daily discussions begin!
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