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Old 02-26-2007, 02:35 PM   #1
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Had a few moments and thought I'd check up on the end of the day.

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And here you are about to lynch your seer.
Well, that's great.

I'll solve the dilema for you.

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++Garin

He's the one tied with Rikae, after all.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:39 PM   #2
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Lalaith probably would be my choice since I can't decide about Roa and Spm. Usually Lalaith seems fine to me and now she doesn't. Every time I have played with her before seh has either been ordo of gifted. I think I may be playing a Lalith wolf for the first time. But I might be prejudiced.
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:40 PM   #3
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Quite... unless she has a wolf. We have one known innocent (assuming she is truthful and that is enough for a single ranger) . Assuming we don't manage to lynch the ranger
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Old 02-26-2007, 02:42 PM   #4
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Okay. If there is someone still thinking I'll leave the door open as I think this more likely a hit to the baddies...

++ Mänwe

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Old 02-26-2007, 02:43 PM   #5
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Long the Númenoreans debated their next step, even though some still seemed to be too shocked to talk much. It was clear to them that there were Faithfuls among them and therefore one of them had to die. But who should that be?

After much back and forth it was agreed that Garin should be lynched.

“But why me?” Garin asked shocked “I serve the Lord Melkor like the next of us. I cannot believe you doubt my faith and devotedness!”

“Well, we don’t really do that, to be honest,” answered the guy who be short “but your ways of worship seem strange to us, and, frankly, we don’t have anybody better.”

“But can you not see that this is madness!?”

“You see, Garin, it is an evil hour that puts such a choice on us, but we cannot help it.” said Kitanna “Prove your faith in Melkor by accepting your death as a thing inevitable and honourable!”

What?? No way!”

But more he was not able to say. Silently Holbytlass took up her huge scythe and approached Garin from behind, and in this moment, with one skilled swing, she decapitated him and Garin lay dead at the villager’s feet.

“Search his body!” ordered Durelin, but all they found was a talisman that proved Garin’s belief in Melkor and Annatar, the god who is his prophet. Garin was no Faithful, but one of them.


Crestfallen the Númenoreans left the peak of Meneltarma and went back to their huts as the sun was setting and it was getting dark.

“Now that I get to think about it, couldn’t we have searched Garin before we killed him?” asked Hookbill, the Goomba, as they descended the hill.

“I think the way we handled it is a quite proven method. And if it works, I don’t see any reason to change it at all.” Roa answered composed.

*~*


The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One


The Living:

Brinniel
Durelin
Gil-Galad
Glirdan
the guy who be short
Holbytlass
Hookbill the Goomba
Kath
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mänwe
The Might
Mithalwen
Nogrod
Rikae
Roa_Aoife
Rune Son of Bjarne
The Saucepan Man
Thinlómien



Wolves, send me your kill. Seer, send me your dream. Ranger, send me your protectee. Hunter, send me your list. It would be best if you do so until about one hour before the deadline, so I have time to write the narration.

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Old 02-27-2007, 02:44 PM   #6
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Long Holbytlass lay awake that night. Thoughts kept on surging into her mind. She had killed a person, and not just some misguided and death-deserving Faithful, but one of their kind.

What has she done?

Finally, she got out of her bed and made her way back to the Meneltarma, where her horrid deed took place, and where Garin’s body lay unburied.

*~*

The next morning, the villagers made themselves on their way, too. Both Holbytlass and The Might, but nobody else, were missing, but the two were not to be found in their huts. Then, on the top of the hill, they recovered them. The bodies of Holbytlass and The Might seemed to rest upon the corpse of Garin, but on closer inspection, both were found out to be dead.

“There is a letter!” cried Mithalwen, and then she read it alound:


Dear respectable remaining residents of the Island of Westernesse,

I can no longer live with the guilt I have brought upon me and I will now try to correct my fault. There is only one way in which Garin’s death can be undone, and nothing else is left to do for me in this hour: I will sacrifice my own blood to pray to Melkor and bring Garin back.

Tell Garin I’m sorry for what I have done, and that I now have paid for it.

Your Holbytlass.


But under it, more has been scribbled hastily, and in a different writing:


Didn’t work! Didn’t work! Need more blood! Need more blood!

Yours deceasingly,
The Might


...and splatters of dried blood surrounded it.


“Well, indeed it doesn’t seem to have worked.” observed the Legate of Amon Lanc, examining Garin’s body, which looked as decapitated and as dead as before.

“Of course it didn’t work!” Rikae added resolutely “How do we expect Melkor the Great to have mercy upon us, when there are still Faithfuls among us? Melkor is a god of the strong, mind you! Once the Faithfuls fertilise the ground, the dead who believed in Him will rise again and we all shall be deathless henceforth.

Let us be thankful nobody died by the hand of the Faithfuls this night. But right now, there is work for us to do!”



*~*


The Dead:

Macalaure (mod) - brutally killed by Faithfuls in Night One
Garin (ordo) - decapitated with a scythe on Day One
Holbytlass (ordo) - committed suicide to revive Garin in Night Two
The Might (ordo) - committed suicide to help Holbytlass reviving Garin in Night Two


The Living:

Brinniel
Durelin
Gil-Galad
Glirdan
the guy who be short
Hookbill the Goomba
Kath
Kitanna
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mänwe
Mithalwen
Nogrod
Rikae
Roa_Aoife
Rune Son of Bjarne
The Saucepan Man
Thinlómien



Wolves, stop pming. Hunter and cobbler, send me another list. Now let the Daily discussions begin!
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:02 PM   #7
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Well the numbers surely are shrinking with a bit too fast pace but happily there seems to be some good news as well with the Ranger making a great save. And now our Ranger too has a known innocent in her/his pocket and will probably live at least up to toMorrow. So with that save we kind of managed to get a borrowed Seer for one Night! Meaning: in Day3 we should have at least two living known innocents around and possibly the ranger might save it then again (50-50 chance of them being around on Day4 as well)... That would help our task considerably.

Kudos to her/him! And a bow.

I for one am ready to take Rikae now at face value. Lying about giftedness never pays in the long run so long as roles are revealed with death and so her coming up that soon would have been folly if she fakes it = I don't believe she faked it.

I'll see a couple of things now but will then have to go to sleep. Happily toMorrow (RL) I'll be able to flood the thread as my choir rehersals have been cancelled.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:13 PM   #8
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First, some replies that I didn't have time for at the end of yesterday.

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Wolves will usually refrain from killing an ordinary innocent who is garnering suspicion since it indeed shields them and they aren't going to waste a night kill on someone who they have a chance of getting lynched. However I would be astonished is wolves let anyone they suspected of being a gifted survive - unless it was the Hunter.
While what you say is true, I believe you completely missed my point. Yes, the wolves will kill anyone they suspect of giftedness. HOWEVER, they can't tell a gifted from a particularly suspicious innocent any better than we can tell a suspiciously acting gifted from a wolf. (And as was demonstrated yesterday, that's very difficult.) THE WOLVES DO NOT KNOW WHO THE GIFTED ARE. (Except when the gifted reveal themselves.) They can't. All they have is a best guess and gamble- is this villager a gifted and thus good for us to kill, or just an ordo we could be using for lynch bait tomorrow? Every suspicious ordo they kill removes one more villager for them to hide behind. Not to mention the trails that more vocal of us tend to leave. (One reason I dislike quietness so much- a quiet ordo leaves no trail when dead.)

Honestly, I don't know why we're even disagreeing over this- it's common sense, and we're both saying the same thing, but from different angles.

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I'm a bit puzzled by the way Roa has played toDay. I mean she seems to defend me in every corner. That makes one uneasy. Or maybe she's using me just as her hobby-horse to go after Spm? Anyhow that I need to think toMorrow if I'm still around.
To be honest, it's quite closer to the later. As SPM said himself, the analysis of words is how wolves are caught. When I returned in the second half of the day, I set about summarizing every post that was made, and adding brief thoughts on it. (You saw the results of that in my analysis that I posted yesterday.) Why just three? Those were the top three that caught my interest. (Okay, I analyzed Nogrod out of force of habit.) When I could find nothing against you, (and I can usually find something against anyone) I saw the charges against you as being nothing more than huffing and puffing.

At first I thought Manwe was more suspicious for it- he had no backing, his case was truly coming out of thin air, and he was being pretty dogged about it. He was so desperate for people to stick blame to that he grabbed onto Kitanna, though she had done the opposite of what he accused her of. But then I analyzed SPM. SPM is arguably one of the best players in this game. And yet, here he was, latching onto a newbies baseless case, and even trying to bolster it with carefully worded propaganda. So in a way, I was "using you" to "get" SPM, in the sense that I found his case against you to be the most suspicious thing of the Day, and I am almost thuroughly convinced that he is a Faithful who wanted to look helpful, and latched onto the suspicion of a prominent and dangerous player. At the end, he even backed down and voted for his conveniently placed other "suspect," who was much closer to lynching.

And Oh, look! She the seer! Whoops. Pretty silly of you, SPM.

Too bold for a wolf? Depends on the wolf, and somehow I doubt that SPM could be anything but bold. (He's way too active and influencial.)

And do I believe Nogrod is innocent? Not unless Rikae dreamed of him and says so. I just think the case against him was pure fabrication.


There were three bandwagons yesterday, for Rikae, Garin, and Manwe. I'll be looking at the voters for Rikae first, and then Manwe, but I'd appreciate it if someone else looks at the Garin bandwagon. (I'm in it, afterall.) Or perhaps, multiple people...

Also, Rikae, if you would be so kind as to let us know what you know. Hopefully, you can clear up the messy Manwe question.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:14 PM   #9
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Sorry people... I was maybe getting a bit too optimistic back there...

It just occured to me that the wolves might have been so stupid as not to try and kill someone else safely the last Night but go straightforwards to Rikae (counting she's the Seer) and thence obviously be denied the kill in the first place.

Or is it a most Devillish plan where all this is staged to cover up for a false Seer? But it shouldn't work. It just couldn't. Too risky (even for Roa? ) so long as a right Seer still lives and killing her/him soon would be most reckless too - even with four faithfuls around.

So maybe we don't have two known innocents toMorrow. I was just too happy, too early...

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Old 02-27-2007, 03:29 PM   #10
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Oh Roa you are being helpful, showing us newbies how its done, though I prefer a spear to a bow on all accounts far more effective at skewering that fish in the shallows. Still we have but to wait until tomorrow when we may expect to find Rikae's body horribly mutilated.

To coin a cliche phrase, there is something fishy going on here and its not just my cloths. Mhm the blend of fish and lupine musk it cannot be a pleasant combination I am sure.

Neither is this mix of blood and fish, poor Might and Holby.

Though I wonder why you are being so helpful Roa, surely providing such excellent analysis would attract the Faithful's to you like a bee to beautiful flower, unless of course you are safe in the knowledge that they would not attack one of their own kind?
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:51 PM   #11
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Excellent! Yay Ranger!

After I saw that we were losing two of our ranks, and with our Seer already outed, I must say I was even more pessimistic than usual. This has me a little more hopeful, though. But, with four wolves out there, we've got a lot of work to do.

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Oh yes...this is my last day among you. As four of you know already, the ranger protected me last night.
Wait...but...I feel like I'm missing something here. How do you know for certain that the Ranger protected you? It is most likely, because that's playing it safe, but...the Wolves have to be...well, as Nogrod said rather stupid to waste a Night's kill. But, I didn't think anyone was told that they were protected. Then again, I've never been saved.

Why would the wolves choose to risk wasting a nice kill? Is it simply stupidity, or were they that desperate to kill Rikae for some reason?

I guess I might be wasting my time, as there's no way to know. I think Rikae might be right about her voters, though. While it is certainly a possibility, I think the majority of us were suspicious of her, myself included. So with what little time I have I'll try and look over Garin's voters, and also look at those who deviated from the bandwagons. On Day 1, innocent lynchings are extremely probable, so I don't see a reason for a Wolf to put him/herself in the middle of a bandwagon on Day 1. Of course, it is possible we got closer to lynching one of them than we think. Possible, though not probable.

Manwe - Roa's excellent analysis is a great help to us! Looking at a person's behavior point-by-point is extremely helpful, and obviously not all of us are so good at such analysis, or have the time to go through everything. If we live in fear of the Faithful, we will surely die. But perhaps your behavior is now somewhat explained - you just want to stay alive? Understandable...but the Faithful will kill us all if we don't actively try to hunt them down.

Edit: Crossed with Nogrod, Lalaith, Roa. All I can say is that I did not say I had no case for Manwe. I just didn't have a lot to go on him. I don't think I was alone in not having a lot to back my vote.
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