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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
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But would that be oppressive ?
Listen, strange minions lyin' in ponds floatin '
or not is is no basis for a system of justice! Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!
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Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oxon
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I can't see how Sauron could "summon" them.
They would try to return to Mordor, as they did after the event on the Ford of Bruinen But I wonder how water would influence their powers. We know they hated water, and Tolkien was aware that the way they managed to cross the dangerous ford at Tharbad is more or less a plot hole. So what would they do in so much water...? I don't really know. ![]()
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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It might be torturous for them, but is their fear of the water stronger than their fear of Sauron? I think they could negotiate the ocean; it's just that they'd have a really bad time!
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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If these rings have marked the Ringwraiths in the way that the Great Ring marked Gollum then they are similarly open to Sauron's summons, especially as he holds Nine rings and they have no independent wills of their own. As to how this summons worked, I thought that it might take a form similar to the mental communication that Gandalf, Galadriel etc display in "Many Partings". Quote:
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Guard of the Citadel
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Sorry LjósÁlfr, I believe I initially understood your point wrong.
I agree with that, now that Morwen explained it. I first thought you mean "summon" as in magically teleport them to Mordor or something like that. ![]()
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a far land beyond the Sea
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![]() (I speak from experience, I used to have a similar definiton for the verb "to summon" in my head some years ago since I had played too much games such as Age of Wonders and Heroes of Might and Magic... ![]()
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Muddy-earth
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What else floats on water?
If they floated would it be possible to make a bridge out of them.
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