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Old 04-25-2007, 11:19 PM   #1
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Having listened quietly to the accusations and discussions flying about, Shasta felt it was time to put in his say. He tossed a rock into the fire to gain everyone's attention.

"First of all, I'd like to address the following."

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Also, a comment by Shastani is rather awkward:
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"Calm, you two... this early on, I doubt there's much of anything in the way of evidence to go on. There's no real point in accusing each other when there's no proof of guilt or innocence whatsoever."
I think accusations reveal the character of a person, and I find accusations to be about as helpful as anything (besides blind luck) on Day 1. I find accusations to be a good thing, so I think it's awkward Shastani, you are telling us to not do it.
"I was merely stating that without any evidence, an execution would be a shot in the dark. We have a chance of either executing an important innocent, such as someone who could tell who the vampires are, or protect from them, or having them reveal their role in order NOT to be executed, and then becoming a prime target for the vampires. The vampires already have a free kill tonight, and the chances of hitting a vampire during a first-day execution is miniscule, to say the least. I see no reason to do the vampires' work for them by killing off an innocent when we have nearly no chance of hitting a vampire."

He looked meditatively into the fire, then went on.

"Also, Gil seems suspicious to me... Mostly, it's his blatant misreading of Rikae's bantering accusations. It was perfectly obvious to me, at least, that it was only a joke... He does seem, at first glance, to be trying to snare a scapegoat."
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:12 AM   #2
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Okay, I've had enough brooding. I'm back.

I must admit with 23 of us, it is a bit overwhelming. There are so many different possibilities on who could be the Vampires. For now, the only one who sticks out to me is Rikae. Her accusing behaviour is most disconcerting, and I find that she is rather...what's the word...jumpy, I guess is how I could describe it. Unless someone else suddenly turns suspicious to me, she remains my most likely voting candidate.

I don't understand why there is some controversy on whether to publicly announce our intended votes or not. An innocent should have no problem with sharing his or her vote. Yes, while an error in judgement could possibly be harmful another Day, not sharing your vote at all I think would result in worse consequences. Having control of the votes is the biggest power us innocents have, and right now, that is a great advantage to have as we clearly outnumber the Vampires. The only way we can be most effective in capturing our baddies is if all of us innocents remain honest and share our votes with one another.

Well, it's been a long day. I need some sleep before making my decision...
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:38 AM   #3
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[About Gil] but given the erratic style he usually uses, he makes a good scapegoat.
This will sound like I'm defending Gil, but last game he accused me and others relatively shakily and it turned out he was innocent. It is quite hard with him to tell if he is innocent or what.

I also suspected Rikae, even before reading the posts saying you guys do too. She just seemed the most erratic so far, and apparently

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Old 04-26-2007, 02:41 AM   #4
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Wonderful, isn't it? All this fear, paranoia and loathing. It is the the sweetest entertainment. Reminds me of the old poetry, it does...

But if we want to get down to business:

Behaviour. Patterns. Tone. Utilise them.

Roa and Boro have the right idea and I think them the wisest among us at the moment.

To make something else happen:

Kitanna is a vampire. I am very suspicious of what she has done.

(By the way, are the numbers of votes given in the next day? Because that would surely give us a huge advantage.)
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:10 AM   #5
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Lomiella emerged from a more distant part of the cave, combing her long, black hair with her fingers and yawning. "I needed sleep after such horrible events... I hope you excuse me." She flashed her eyelashes and settled among the others, straightening her yellow skirt.

I, too, agree with SPM's suggestion. It will put nice pressure on the baddies and will give us something to go on. It's very sensible. Then we just have to take care that we remember to both vote here and send the vote to our mod - (I know I could make the mistake and forget actual voting since I'd already have voted once. ) We must be careful not to make these mistakes since that might cause fatal errors in the data.

I don't see what this mess about Rikae is. I think she seems pretty normal and bantery. Noggie and Gil seem to be allied against her, and I find it very weird.

Lomiella gets up and casts a pretty smile - with fluttery eyelashes of course - to all the other people gathered around the fire. "Ill take a little stroll around the cave and think more about things. I'll be back."
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:21 AM   #6
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Mac has a knife again now. He examines it gleefully and then hides it with and evil smirk on his face.


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I don't trust this Mac person. He speaks of a knife...then says he doesn't have one! I say we search him.
And I bet you want to be the one who does, don't you?


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Can't I at least frisk him?
Knew it!


Anyway, please, don't be suspicious of Rikae for flirting with me, I'd make me feel guilty.
The thing that does make me suspicious of her, however, is that she does little else than flirting, in-character things, self-defense and a flimsy case against Nogrod and Gil.


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For example, if I'm not mistaken the lynch seer is given the number of votes that the person who will be lynched received. So, let's say if the person who gets lynched received 6 votes, yet when we go back to the previous day and tally up all of them, there were 7 votes for that person...well we know someone was lying and couldn't vote, therefor someone in that group must be a vampire. Which can be a huge benefit to us as we now know someone in that group couldn't vote and therefor is a vampire.
If we do get the exact number, it will be even better if the figures are correct! I mean, that would be a lot of known innocents all at once, wouldn't it? (though the semi-innocent shade might be among them)


So far, there has been a lot in-character stuff. It's all nice and funny, sure, but come on...

A lot of vague and baseless accusations there have been, too, but that's how Day Ones are, and better have them vague and baseless than have no accusations at all. Of course the chances to catch a vampire toDay are slim and those to kill and innocent are high, but that's how it works. It's a slim chance, but it's the only one we have.


Talking of vague and baseless accusations, here are mine now:


Boro has already said it, and I agree: Legate is being too nice for my liking, too.


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Since the subject has been brought up, I have no problem sharing with everyone who I intend to vote for each Day. After all, I don't have anything to hide. Not that it'll really matter in the end, anyway.
It seems like everybody (but Six) is approving the idea, but this approval here somehow sounds like it has been said with a little reluctance. I'm probably interpreting too much, but it looks to me like she's agreeing and sowing a seed of doubt at the same time.
In her later post Brinn takes a clearer stance, but still.

I'm also perceiving some strange karma from Meneltarmacil.
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Old 04-26-2007, 03:53 AM   #7
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Rikae emerges from the shadows, carrying a large pillow. She places it on top of the broken pillar and sits down again.

"I think Eomer has a good point about Kitanna. I can't quite believe she would honestly make the mistake of thinking the gifteds were on the vampires' side. I would be interested in hearing more from her.
And as for you, Mac, I ought to suspect you for claiming I made a case against Nogrod when I did not.

As I recall, I said I didn't trust Esspiem and Gil. In retrospect, though, since Esspiem had self-defense to think of and Gil is almost always suspicious; Menel's reaction worried me more. I admit, I made a mistake in my response, translating "accusing people based on in-character bantering is suspicious" to "Gil is suspicious" in my mind, simply because that's what Gil did when he called me "very suspicious" for "suspecting two people" (Mac and Esspiem.)
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As for Espiem, I agree with him that accusing people based on in-character bantering is suspicious. Rikae certainly does seem to be giving off warning signs in that respect.
I might seem to be harping on this too much, but I didn't respond for self-defense so much as to point out that Menel is not making sense here.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:01 AM   #8
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And as for you, Mac, I ought to suspect you for claiming I made a case against Nogrod when I did not.
Ack! Gil and Espiem, I meant.
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