Werewolf XXXII: The Lost Age

[Rikae]

Rikae emerges from the shadows, carrying a large pillow. She places it on top of the broken pillar and sits down again.

"I think Eomer has a good point about Kitanna. I can't quite believe she would honestly make the mistake of thinking the gifteds were on the vampires' side. I would be interested in hearing more from her.
And as for you, Mac, I ought to suspect you for claiming I made a case against Nogrod when I did not.

As I recall, I said I didn't trust Esspiem and Gil. In retrospect, though, since Esspiem had self-defense to think of and Gil is almost always suspicious; Menel's reaction worried me more. I admit, I made a mistake in my response, translating "accusing people based on in-character bantering is suspicious" to "Gil is suspicious" in my mind, simply because that's what Gil did when he called me "very suspicious" for "suspecting two people" (Mac and Esspiem.)

Originally Posted by Menel

As for Espiem, I agree with him that accusing people based on in-character bantering is suspicious. Rikae certainly does seem to be giving off warning signs in that respect.

I might seem to be harping on this too much, but I didn't respond for self-defense so much as to point out that Menel is not making sense here.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Rikae

And as for you, Mac, I ought to suspect you for claiming I made a case against Nogrod when I did not.

Ack! Gil and Espiem, I meant.

[Celuien]

I have cast my vote for Kitanna. On reflection, it was rather odd to think that the vampire-seer/ranger/hunter were additional roles.

And now, I must be off to wander the streets of the village.

[Meneltarmacil]

Well, I just sent in my vote for Rikae, and that should be all for toDay.

[Macalaure]

I think that, for clarity's sake, we all should vote like we normally do. So in order to find these two again later:

Celuien: ++Kitanna

Menel: ++Rikae

[Thinlómien]

I understood that she was referring to the vampire-gifteds not to some additional gifteds that are on the vampire's side, yet everybody else seems to be interpreting her words the other way... Is there some problem with my interpretation (as my English is, regrettably, slightly faulty) or are some people jumping on weird conclusions?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Bandwagon?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Bandwagon?

Bandwagon what?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I understood that she was referring to the vampire-gifteds not to some additional gifteds that are on the vampire's side, yet everybody else seems to be interpreting her words the other way... Is there some problem with my interpretation (as my English is, regrettably, slightly faulty) or are some people jumping on weird conclusions?

Anyway it might be, it's pretty weird to vote for someone ie. suspect her of being a vampire because she is puzzled and possibly wrong about the roles... Who if not the vampires know the roles pretty well? Kitanna might bluff to be sure, but that's quite a far-fetched suspicion on Day1 and quite a sham reason to vote. So this would more likely make me consider suspecting Celuien from being a possible safe-voter vampire (or in that case, making an appearance of a vote that had something like a reason attached to it).

That just as a first impression. More to follow after a while.

EDIT: X'd with Eomer and Rikae

[Thinlómien]

Well, well...

Gil-Galad - I find it funny that he made a remark about people who have not spoken yet, remembering his previous style... I don't like his edginess at all.

The Saucepan Man - Has been reasonable this far and my gut-feeling does not alarm me. Anyway, knowing how shrewd this pan-man is, I think I need more time to condemn him in one way or another. (Not that I was sure about anyone at this phase anyway... )

Rikae - She seems quite normal and her in-caharcter things are understandable. Anyway, her accusations are quite flimsy, but then again, it was only early Day1. And then there's the Kitanna-confusion... I don't know what to think of her.

Boromir88 - He seems reasonable and has not been sending the infamous "bad vibes" this far... If you ask me he can be granted his "birthday present" of not getting lynched toDay.

Nogrod - Seems innocent enough, yes, yet I find his case against Rikae and his notions on Rikae-Gil-SPM triangle a bit weird... I mean, it's not uncharacteristic of him, but a bit rash...

Eomer of the Rohirrim - For a change, he seems innocent to me. His Kitanna-experiment is most intriguing. I'm not worried about him right now.

Brinniel - From her little activity toDay it's difficult to perceive anything, but the few things she has said do not worry me.

Legate of Amon Lanc - Well, I like his IC-posts and I like the fact he's both making those and contributing to the game. I would not like to get rid of his reasonability today, unless he give me a good reason to suspect him, which he hasn't done this far.

Aganzir - Not much to say about her, good or bad.

Meneltarmacil - I can't form a clear picture of him. He makes me slightly uneasy.

Xyzzy - Seems to be familiarly in-character and absent... I hope he'll be back with more substance!

Roa_Aoife - While I see she wants to banter with Nogrod, I don't see why she accuses him both for too strong words (ie quick judging?) and waffling.

Macalaure - He lacks the edginess and aggressiveness which has caused me to suspect him at times in past (err... last time when I was a wolf and he was the seer... ) but right now he's not worrying me - on the contrary, he seems pretty innocent this far.

Diamond18 - She's more serious and absent than usually, but might be because of time problems etc. Does not seem particularly innocent...

Shastanis Althreduin - although he writes nicely I'd like to see more non-in-character things from him... this far he's only played in-character and defended himself... not a very good sign

Celuien - I don't get her Kitanna-"case". I think I need to go through her posts once more to form a clearer picture of her.

Kitanna - Well the whole Kitanna-thing needs to be cleared by herself.

Sleepy Ranger - Well, you can't say much about him.

Durelin - Very durelistic. That does not tell much, though.

Glirdan - Absent...

Rune Son of Bjarne - He's mysterious, for one, which makes me think he's an attention-seeking ordo. His insubstantiality (sp?) however makes me think he could be a vampire as well. A difficult one.

The Sixth Wizard - He seems very honest and his denial of SPM's suggestion speaks for his innocence in my opinion.

edit: xed with Rune, Gil and Noggie

[Aganzir]

I have been reading through the thread, and this far Sixth would seem quite innocentish, except for his opinion about revealing who to vote for at the beginning of the game. I also liked Roa's points.

I have no idea who I should vote for. No one seems to be strikingly suspicious. However, I didn't like how Xyzzy seized upon Rune's "Maybe you do and maybe you don't". One (and maybe the most possible) explanation could be that as this is the first Day, people are looking for some, at least a little suspicious signs on other players (this is what I'm doing right now?).
The others I'm slightly concerned about are Menel and Celuien. At first I was inclined to trust Celuien, but as I read her posts again, they left a little uncomfortable feeling, as did also her vote for Kitanna.

I would also like to hear more experienced players' opinions about following: would it be unwise (or unnecessary) to discuss more about this lynch seer thing? It might affect on voting if we were aware who would kill who in case of being lynched & given the chance to kill someone, or, were one the lynch seer, for who would s/he allow a free kill (in case s/he solves the riddle). As far as I've been thinking, I can't come up with any idea of how the Vampires could possibly benefit from seeing us discuss about these matters. Vice versa, it might be useful to see how easily some are ready to cast a vote on person who has hinted s/he might, given the chance, be ready to kill the voter. And what if the person to be lynched has announced to kill somebody trusted by the most? Would it be against the principles of the game to agree upon that whoever the lynch seer is, this person will not be given a free kill?
This may be a bad idea, but I thought it worth mentioning.

edit: x'd since Rikae.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I would also like to hear more experienced players' opinions about following: would it be unwise (or unnecessary) to discuss more about this lynch seer thing? It might affect on voting if we were aware who would kill who in case of being lynched & given the chance to kill someone, or, were one the lynch seer, for who would s/he allow a free kill (in case s/he solves the riddle).

This may be a good idea. The only point I can think against is that a vampire might get the riddle and realize that the lynchee wants to kill another vampire, thus removing the chance. This case may be unlikely. Also, the lynchee may change their mind upon death, re-reading through the thread, and picking a new target, as it their right.

Beyond that, however, I see no reason not to do it. It's a bit late in the Day now, however. It'd be best to wait until Day 2, when we have fewer people but more information, and more time to discuss the idea. For now, it'd be safe to assume that a lynchee would go for their top suspect(s).

edit: crossed with Nogrod

[Gil-Galad]

I really can't see anything againest Menel... i fear that we will either be hurting ourselves by voting for him... i won't say anything more...


but for now we must wait till this oracle shows up again...

xed with lommy

[The Sixth Wizard]

I've just had a last-minute change of heart. I was going to vote for Rikae, but reading over the posts, decided it better if we left her alone for a while. I am, however, afraid that Day 2 we might forget about her comments here.

The person I have decided to vote for is Gil. As I said, for me at least he is very indescernable, and it is Day 1 after all. We may as well have a shot in the dark than take out a potentially valuable innocent like Nogrod or Rikae.

Hell, I don't know how to act on Day 1. Last game we got a wolf Day 1 and it was wierd after that.

Sorry guys but that was my last post for the Day. Looking forward to the bloodbath that will follow with so many gifteds and vampires. Back in the next 10 hours or so.