Werewolf XXXII: The Lost Age

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I would also like to hear more experienced players' opinions about following: would it be unwise (or unnecessary) to discuss more about this lynch seer thing? It might affect on voting if we were aware who would kill who in case of being lynched & given the chance to kill someone, or, were one the lynch seer, for who would s/he allow a free kill (in case s/he solves the riddle).

This may be a good idea. The only point I can think against is that a vampire might get the riddle and realize that the lynchee wants to kill another vampire, thus removing the chance. This case may be unlikely. Also, the lynchee may change their mind upon death, re-reading through the thread, and picking a new target, as it their right.

Beyond that, however, I see no reason not to do it. It's a bit late in the Day now, however. It'd be best to wait until Day 2, when we have fewer people but more information, and more time to discuss the idea. For now, it'd be safe to assume that a lynchee would go for their top suspect(s).

edit: crossed with Nogrod

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

It's a bit late in the Day now, however. It'd be best to wait until Day 2, when we have fewer people but more information, and more time to discuss the idea.

Agreed. Let's try to figure out the lynch for toDay. It looks to me that either all the people are leaving it to the last minute or they are not going to reveal their votes. The latter option is the worst we can get. If only half of the village tell whom they voted we will have basically no benefit from the votes.

Yes, three people will lie about their votes but if we "know" all the votes we can make inferences and they are better than nothing. So please people do not slip away without stating your votes here too.

Anyone has the tally so far? If not I'll take a look at it after a small pause I need now.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Roa points out well the possibility of a vampire being the lynch seer. However, assuming that the mod will assign the lynch seer gift at random (which is, I hasten to add, not the readiest assumption we will ever make) this will still give us information and leads, possibly highly valuable.

Be as public as you can; chances are it will help us.

I will be voting for ++CELUIEN

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Vote x'd with Lommy.

And to stay in character, this fearful squabbling is frightfully delicious and fun! And lots more horror to come tonight! I deem it good, yes...goooood....

[Celuien]

Umm. I replied to Kitanna's question yesterday evening and went to bed. Then I mulled things over while eating breakfast this morning, emailed my vote, and then came here to see Eomer's comment. In other words, what he said had nothing to do with my vote.

What she said seemed too confusing, and after I replied, almost seemed like a vampire fishing for input on roles. Which I didn't think of until later.

I apologize if I didn't explain that enough before. It's a result of trying to run out the door to get to work in the morning and also trying to fit some sleep in between getting home from work and going back in the morning.

[Nogrod]

Okay.

Rikae 2
Menel 2
Celuien 3
Kitanna 1
Sixth 1
Legate 1

That means 13 votes still to come or undeclared... It's not going too well for us if we think of gathering some information from these toMorrow...

EDIT: upgraded the tally with Roa's vote

[Gil-Galad]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Okay.

Rikae 2
Menel 2
Celuien 3
Kitanna 1
Sixth 1
Legate 1

That means 14 votes still to come or undeclared... It's not going too well for us if we think of gathering some information from these toMorrow...

wow how did i miss so many...

[Brinniel]

Legate's vote for Sixth is indeed rather odd. Still, I don't think this is a strong enough reason to vote for him just yet. But we should watch him more closely come toMorrow.

And I'm not exactly sure what to think of Menel, so I will not vote for him just yet.

The whole Kitanna bandwagon did seem pretty ridiculous, especially since she has not even gotten a chance to expain herself. This makes Celuien and Rikae to me. Maybe Celuien seems more the suspicious one to some for voting reasons, I think Rikae's jumping around and accusing attitude makes me feel more uneasy about her. She was my primary suspect last night, and if anything, my suspicions of her have only increased.

Deadline is almost here, so I will be submitting my vote now.

++Rikae

EDIT: X-ed from Aganzir on...

[Nogrod]

Legate it is then...

++ Legate

Let's hope that's enough...

[The Saucepan Man]

No time to expalin. I will tomorrow if I'm still here.

++Kitanna

[Aganzir]

I went and checked both Menel's and Celuien's posts, and I think I will vote for Celuien (and feel myself a newbie-who-doesn't-think-with-her-own-brain as I'll be the fourth person in a row to vote for her). Her posts made sense, in a way, but she just seems to be (like Boromir said about Legate) too nice for my liking, and the uncomfortable feeling hasn't left anywhere.
I don't know what to make out of her last post, but it isn't actually saying anything that might change my opinion about her previous posts.

++ Celuien

edit: x'd with Macalaure.

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But as she clearly is an intelligent woman, I'm getting some doubts to my mind from her insistence yet again. An innocent looks for the best of the village, not to try and get someone lynched just because she would like to get that someone lynched.

It's mildly insulting that you suggest I would try to get you lynched simply because it's you, and not because there's any real suspcion against you. The fact is that your case against Rikae is full of holes that show you are either lying or you didn't read the thread very well before you accused her. Since you offered no excuse in that area, I must assume it is the former. And this is hardly the inisistance used in the last game. I just pointed out the faultiness in your case. Your reaction of "suspecting her because she suspects me" is almost as flimsy. Even if you are innocent, which I have not ruled out this time either, narrowing your views this way is hardly for the benefit of the village.

But if I didn't honestly find you suspicious, I wouldn't try to get you lynched, not even for old rivalries, and not even if I was evil. I enjoy playing with you too much to look for ways to get rid of you on Day 1.

I have to go, and I vote for Celuien.

Edit: Crossed with everyone since my last post

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

It's mildly insulting that you suggest I would try to get you lynched simply because it's you, and not because there's any real suspcion against you. The fact is that your case against Rikae is full of holes that show you are either lying or you didn't read the thread very well before you accused her. Since you offered no excuse in that area, I must assume it is the former. And this is hardly the inisistance used in the last game. I just pointed out the faultiness in your case. Your reaction of "suspecting her because she suspects me" is almost as flimsy. Even if you are innocent, which I have not ruled out this time either, narrowing your views this way is hardly for the benefit of the village.

Nice to see it's only mildly insulting... but I've gotten that feeling lately (this is the second game in a row where you make totally ungrounded and far-fetched / fabricated... whatever points at me. Sorry but can't help it.)

But as I'm afraid that I'm possibly not here to answer your points toMorrow, sorry about the sidetrack here at this moment.

I hadn't any case against Rikae yesterday (RL). I only pointed out that there were things that raised alarms in me. And as there is no case there should be a lots of holes there anyhow. If I'd said I was sure she was a villain you could have tried to find the holes and accuse me of a bad case - to the benefit of the village.

About not reading well enough I might ask the same question from you. Rikae even admitted herself she had been mistaken in her writing about these in-character things. Well, if she's a vampire she surely was not mistaken but caught...

And anyhow. I was not saying that I knew she is a vampire, but stated quite clearly that I wished for some explanation of her actions. That was the best I had then. It's pretty bad gaming from an innocent to try to suppress discussion and questions by way of getting at them the first moment you see someone is trying. Not good politics.

And my reaction then? Of all the people you are then the one who doesn't take a pun with what it's worth? Oh my.

Maybe you're a baddie after all?

But okay. I just felt I had to say this for Roa can be pretty persuasive...

I was thinking of voting for Celuien but her latest comment looks pretty sincere.

Arrggh.

[Macalaure]

Legate's vote for Six is odd. Not only does it look like a throw away (is anybody else particularly suspicious of Six now?), but also the extremely hidden way in which he made it looks bad to me.

Even though I am quite suspicious of Rikae, I don't like to vote for her, because in the past lynching the one who looks most obviously strange was usually not a good idea. They're usually misguided innocents instead of wolves. Most wolves have learned to play more careful.

I can see the points raised against Celuien, but she didn't say very much overall today, so I would prefer leaving her for tomorrow.

I'd like to vote for somebody who is being more sneaky today, probably Menel or Legate.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'd like to vote for somebody who is being more sneaky today, probably Menel or Legate.

I might stand behind your ideas Mac. I think Cel's last post speaks of innocense. And both of the two you raise have worried me a bit lately even though I haven't had a chance to look at them more closely.

[Nogrod]

Rikae 2
Menel 2
Celuien 4
Kitanna 1
Sixth 1
Legate 1

Anyone else around but Mac? Any thoughts?

We don't know what the votes are indeed. These are only the declared votes.

I'm afraid there are some to Rikae at least (well, not the worst candidate but I would sure have chosen someone else toDay) and to me Cel looks innocentish right now (lying about RL problems would be unfair and not Celuienish anyhow). I'm not sure about Menel or Legate. There's something odd with both of them, possibly more on Legate.

ToMorrow I hope everyone will understand why declaring one's vote is essential! This is stupid!

[Volo]

Day 1 ended.

Night 2 began.

Send your kills/protections/dreams at last at 2 PM GMT tomorrow, because that is when I'll have to start Day 2. Sorry. (And it will be helpful if you send your kills and protections as early as possible.)

[Kath]

A long half-a-period had ended, the three Vampires were all fed up with the whole business. Their meeting place was on top of the highest tower. With their unnaturally good eyesight they could see all Kaimoir. The place the Men chose to sleep in was well lit with torches brought from above.


”Hmph, they don’t seem to believe Enhilion’s calming words about no monsters living here. His kindness killed him, because of that”, Lossenatar said.


Firithhyando cursed in the usual calm manner, ”Chort ih vozmi. Dear Hilly, why did you have to do it… The only consolation is that Hilly may still be somewhere around, his body is alive. Hey Num, cheer up, our plan is working after all”.


The usually strong willed Numundo was indeed weeping. Numundo turned towards Firithhyando and snapped, ”What do you mean by our plan working, it’s not! Enhilion is dead! Did you hear, dead! Would you have made such a sacrifice if you had known? Yulnagar knew, I bet! But did he tell us? No, he didn’t. Curse him! And now Enhilion is dead. So that’s who we should blame, not those fools down there”.


Lossenatar shouted with an icy stern voice, ”Do not speak ill of Yulnagar! I’m sure he has his reasons”.


With that something glinted in Numundo’s eye and the largest Vampire’s hand suddenly turned into a claw flying straight at Lossenatar’s chest. The slash would have been a deadly one, if Lossenatar hadn’t dodged. Firithhyando caught Numundo’s arm and held it firmly until the claw turned back into hand.


The only sound following was Numundo’s hard breathing. It softened soon. Numundo looked at Lossenatar, ”Sorry, friend. I didn’t mean it”.


”It’s ok”. Lossenatar was really shocked by Numundo’s sudden attack but it was too dangerous to start quarrelling now.


Firithhyando stood on the edge of the tower looking down, through it all. ”I feel danger”.


Numundo didn’t notice that and said, ”I’m going for blood, those humans will pay”.


”Don’t. King Yulnagar will be angry”, the eldest answered.


”Like I care? It’s Yulnagar’s fault, it’s all the same to me what he thinks about this”. With that Numundo jumped off the edge.


A lone bat flew through the city, only the eye of a Vampire could notice it.

-~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------~~-

The night wasn’t a pieceful one. Not only the Vampires didn’t sleep. Mac was tossing his knife around nervously. Glirdan was trying to make himself a bow, without much success. Legate was more lucky, he found a strong stick that he could use as a staff and was now carving on it in his thoughts. Sleepy slept: he was terribly tired.


But one woman was an exception. Brinniel was sulking in the corner of her room. There was probably nothing left that she hadn’t cursed that night. ”Why do I of all the people have to be here!” She tore at her hair and kicked a chair that stood perfectly innocently beside her corner. ”Aargh!”


Then as Brinniel stood up to look for something sharp, she noticed a piece of paper and a quill lying beside the door. She looked at it, and it looked back. Brinniel tried but couldn’t resist, she grabbed the quill and the empty piece of paper. Then she noticed the problem that floated in her room: there was no ink!


Brinniel cursed and was starting to rip the paper, when all of a sudden she heard a voice. The voice, oh, it was so beautiful! Brinniel heard words come to her from inside her own head. Words of poetry, just as beautiful as the voice. A glint of madness would have been seen in Brinniel eyes if somebody were there to see.


The girl held the quill in her shaking hand and slowly stuck it deep into her other hand. Blood started flowing. And Brinniel wrote words never written before. She wrote, and wrote, and wrote... She felt dizzy, but the voice in her head continued and Brinniel couldn’t stop now.


Unfortunately, she did, but not because she wanted to.


Behind the door to her room Numundo laughed and was gone.

-~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------~~-

The great clock struck.


As the crowd quietly gathered around the big square, the Oracle in Enohl’s body walked out from a house opposite the clock. He walked past Morgan and stood in the middle of the square.


”You have made a decision and I will honor it.


”Bravely this hidden eye told our truth, and now our truth remains.”


At that a gasp of terror was heared from beside Shasta.


An artificial scream of joy followed, ”Ribbits! It’s you! I thought you were lost”. Celuien pointed one way and ran the oppisite.


This caused a commotion. Aganzir bumped into Roa, Menel bumped into Diamond and many other collisions accured. Finally Gil got out of the crowd and started searching for Celuien. No sign of her could be found.


A lot of cursing followed and that was the moment when the absence of Brinniel was noted. Some screaming followed the cursing.

-~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------~~-

Having had a good sleep, Sleepy was the first to run to Brinniel’s house. Roa and Morgan followed Sleepy.


Brinniel’s house was locked. Sleepy tried bashing through, but only got a cut on his arm. While Roa was tending Sleepy’s arm, Morgan headed back to the square and soon returned with Esspiem. Esspiem looked at the lock, took a nail from his pocket, stuck it into the lock, twisted the nail and opened the door.


Sleepy, Roa and Morgan looked at each other and agreed that it would havee been better that Essipiem hadn’t opened the door.


The view was ghastly. All the things were tossed around and nearly all the furniture broken. Brinniel was sitting at the table, but clearly and sadly not too alive. She was paler than usually, which would have been the most shocking thing if not for the fact that Brinniel’s left hand was all red and there was a large puddle of blood below her chair.


She was dead. And so was her art. The piece of paper had blood all over it, only a small corner was readable.


"The gates crash down

The blood runs through

The veins are open
And now the world... is broken"


At that the four dizzy persons left the room.

-~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------~~-

Sleepy, Roa, Morgan and Esspiem returned the square and Roa told what they saw.


And then Celuien walked back from the darkness, slowly and calmly, with a smile.


”Get her!” shouted Menel.


”No. Let her come”, said the Oracle and Menel was ignored.


Celuien walked with her hands holding something near her heart. She continued mumbling, ”Ribbits... Oh, Ribbits. How scared I was when I couldn’t find you. I am so so happy that you came back”.


It didn’t help Esspiem when he saw that Celuien was in fact not holding a frog in her hands and chanted to thin air. He looked at the Oracle and back at Celuien, deciding to back out a bit.


The Oracle walked to Celuien and spoke, ”Your time is over, you have been chosen to die”. Enohl’s body put a hand on Celuien’s head.


What happened next was the most dreadful thing any of the people around had ever seen. Celuien fell into pieces. Her hands came off, her legs came off, bones cracked and broke. With a snap her head came off... After that everybody’s eyes were closed and nobody knew what happened, except that whatever happened, happened very loudly and the imagination replaced facts.


The noise calmed.


A while lasted.


Rikae risked her health and opened her eyes. What she saw not only suprised her even more but probably damaged her mental health, not that it wasn’t a pretty sight. But knowing what the beautiful, or at least artistic, chair the Oracle was sitting on had been a moment ago did make it an ugly situation.


The ugly situation continued being ugly.


Finally since the Oracle didn’t say anything, Glirdan asked, ”Umm... W..w...was she the V..Vampire?”


”No!”

-~~-----------------------------------------------------------------------~~-

The living:


Gil-Galad (Gil)

The Saucepan Man (Esspiem/SPM)

Rikae

Boromir88 (Boro)

Nogrod

Eomer of the Rohirrim (Eomer)

Thinlómien (Lomiella/Lommy)

Legate of Amon Lanc (Legate)

Aganzir

Meneltarmacil (Menel)

Xyzzy

Roa_Aoife (Roa)

Macalaure (Mac)

Diamond18 (Di)

Shastanis Althreduin (Shasta)

Kitanna

Sleepy Ranger (Sleepy)

Durelin

Glirdan (Glirdy)

Rune Son of Bjarne (Rune)

The Sixth Wizard (Morgan/Sixth)


The dead:


Celuien (Cel) – Turned into a chair by the Oracle after being voted out on Day 1. Innocent.

Brinniel – Possessed by the Vampires to write poetry with her own blood on Night 2. Innocent.



DAY 1

All votes should still be sent to the gmail address, or PMed to me if you've cleared that with Volo.

You may now start talking.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Shasta shook his head. "So both were innocent... As lovely... er... artistic as that chair is, looking at it does nothing for my mental health." He turned away, shuddering.

"Brinniel wasn't mentioned a lot yesterday, was she? I'm going to hold my vote for now, until we've heard any new evidence that might have surfaced during the night."