Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 06-17-2007, 04:14 PM

There's a contradiction between something I wrote in post # 801 & what Foley wrote in post # 805.

#801:

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She gave him not even a glance, holding the eyes of the Eorl, who agreed to her offer. He sent Haleth on ahead with the two headed dead man, then he and his men showed her each of their kills to Rowenna.

#805:

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The entire group set off. Some of the guards of Meduseld took up Rilef’s body and walked behind Thornden. The others from the Mead Hall walked behind those – Garmund going directly behind Rilef, looking crushed and depressed.

I like what you wrote in 805, but then I need to figure out how to change 801 so there's not such a huge party of cavalry in the way while Rowenna identifies the dead. Any ideas?

Folwren · 06-17-2007, 04:37 PM

O-oh. Oh dear. That's entirely my fault. I had thought I had read that somehwere, but then I couldn't remember where, and I guess I didn't try hard enough, but I didn't find it.

Let me know what you decide on doing - changing your post or having me change mine. I'm leaving for camp shortly and will have to fix it later if you want me to do the changing.

Sorry.

-- Folwren

littlemanpoet · 06-17-2007, 06:55 PM

No problem. I'll change my post to have Haleth and his men leave without taking Rilef with them. That's about as simple a fix as I can devise.

littlemanpoet · 06-20-2007, 03:43 PM

What is needed to help my fellow rpg writers to post?

Celuien · 06-20-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

What is needed to help my fellow rpg writers to post?

Consistent Internet access.

That won't happen until I get a new computer. Long story.

littlemanpoet · 06-20-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Celuien

Consistent Internet access.

Sorry, can't help there.

I'm planning on moving "time" forward a good bit next time. That means retrospective writing. In other words, expect a jump of at least a month. Your first post on the new day will therefore be a retrospective post, in which your character thinks - or talks about with another character (PM built post opportunity) - about the events of the past month. These will include:

a last rites ritual for Rilef
Eodwine holding court during which time will occur the trial (and later the execution) of Ulric and Withold
the fate of Ghem
the degree to which Rowenna and Elián fit (or not) into the EMH
more conflict between Thornden and Falco (or not)
more conflict between Garmund and Cnebba (or not)
perhaps more events that I can't think of because you will

The current date at the EMH is May 24, Fourth Age year 15 (this rpg started on New Year's Day of year 15 which is March 25). We've spent posts #469 to the current post running three days straight, and it's time to make a jump.

Please respond with any concerns, questions, ideas, and so forth. Thanks!

Nogrod · 06-20-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

What is needed to help my fellow rpg writers to post?

Time to write without RL-hindrances...

But as I said, I will be back after the Midsummer Eve's parties the next weekend are over. Rest assured I will post then more frequently. That's a promise.

Celuien: what do you think, should we press on with the gap between Garmund & Cnebba or should we more or less heal it? We probably should make their relation somewhat better now as the chance was there (with the lambs and the fight at the ruins) and I don't see what kind of a mess we should throw them in to give them another one...

Celuien · 06-22-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Should we press on with the gap between Garmund & Cnebba or should we more or less heal it?

I'm all for healing it. They've squabbled enough, and besides, Garmund isn't anywhere near thinking about a fight right now because of the events surrounding Rilef.

Lhunardawen · 06-22-2007, 08:51 PM

The wait is over; our post is up. Thanks for the patience.

Lhunardawen · 06-21-2007, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

What is needed to help my fellow rpg writers to post?

I knew you were bound to ask that sooner or later...

I was going to post here that Kath and I are PM-building a post for Ginna and Kara leading up to the women meeting the arrivals. We're still on it. Please wait patiently for us again...

littlemanpoet · 06-21-2007, 09:38 AM

Cool!

I'll wait somewhat patiently. (Eager to see what comes of it).

Ealasaide · 06-22-2007, 08:30 AM

I will try to get something up there today from Elián.

littlemanpoet · 06-30-2007, 08:33 PM

I've attached an updated plan for sleeping arrangements. At this point they do not include arrangements for Elián and Rowenna. That remains to be seen. Is there anybody that I missed?

littlemanpoet · 06-30-2007, 08:42 PM

Here's an overview of how the whole place looks in my mind. Sorry if this wrenches things for your own imaginations.

littlemanpoet · 07-01-2007, 10:42 AM

Foley, you are using Léof in such a way that, considering my post just before yours, he has to be in two places at the same time. Can you do with just Garwine?

Folwren · 07-01-2007, 12:08 PM

Hm. You're right. Sorry. I was thinking...I was thinking incorrectly about something that no longer makes sense, so I won't explain. It was too late in the night to be writing...

I'll fix it. But I have to go help make lunch/dinner now, so it will have to wait a while.

-- Folwren

Folwren · 07-01-2007, 01:52 PM

Hm. I edited Leof out of what I have so far, but I'm going to add some more and still have Thornden address him in the end. But I'm needed again, so, I'm afraid I can't do it now.

EDIT: I have now completely edited my post. Does that work better, Elempi?

-- Folwren

Ealasaide · 07-03-2007, 01:37 PM

Thanks for the floor plans, Elempi! Those will be very, very helpful to me.

One question: Where's the door to the cellar? Could be very important... Eh, come to think of it, have you got a diagram of the cellars, as well? Or shall I just wing it?

Sorry for my delay in posting, too. I've had way too many irons in the fire this week, but I do have a Ghem post partially written that I hope to finish sometime today.

Nogrod · 07-03-2007, 02:21 PM

I know I've promised this possibly a few times already, but I will be with the story in a Day or two...

But really all kinds of things have been in the way, mainly unexpected works and enjoying the summer with Lommy & her sis. But now I'm going to be alone in the city for a couple of weeks and should have time also to catch up and take part in here...

See you soon.

I'm looking forwards to this new plot of yours Eala!

littlemanpoet · 07-03-2007, 08:27 PM

Here are a couple of revised floorplans yet again.

One adds the new stairway down to the cellar, as well as the general location of the paddock, and the new dog yard.

The second maps out the cellar. You will notice "old stairs". These are from when the kitchen was directly behind the mead hall proper. Currently the old stairs are still there, but now they go nowhere. Where the corridor used to enter the kitchen is now part of the alder courtyard, with dirt fill and new grass. But it makes for an interesting feature nonetheless. It's what gives old homes their curiosity factor, eh?

Turns out the cellar is bigger than I expected. But one could say that it's bigger than Eodwine and his friends expected, but necessary because the old cellar was smaller and right beneath the kitchen; it made no sense to block off the old cellar, so the new cellar became an extension of the old. The fact that it never entered anyone's posts is just one of those things, I suppose.

Lhunardawen · 07-07-2007, 01:54 AM

It just occurred to me - does Thornden's wounded hand need any tending? I know someone who could possibly relate to the pain.

littlemanpoet · 07-07-2007, 06:11 AM

Sorry, this has been a very busy week for me between 53 hours of work and my wife's family in town for Independence Day festivities and trying to catch up on an rpg I've been invited to join late. I hope to get caught up here by the end of today.

Folwren · 07-07-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

It just occurred to me - does Thornden's wounded hand need any tending? I know someone who could possibly relate to the pain.

Oh. I totally forgot about his hand. Whoops. Yes, that thing'll need tending to sometime or other. I'll have to write it later...or something...

-- Folwren

Nogrod · 07-08-2007, 06:19 AM

Here's what I've been thinking...

So the outlaws get away and climb the stairs to the kitchen. Wasn't it so?

In that case no one in the hall will have any idea they've escaped. Unless something betrays their escape.

So could it be that someone is there in the kitchen or is just going back there and notices the outlaws there - and screams? Maybe if s/he is there already the outlaws might jump on her/him? Although I'm not sure if a plain scream would provoke the reaction we possibly want so maybe that person should openly call something like "the outlaws" or "they're loose" or whatever.

Now I think Stigend is sitting quite near the stairs (as is implied from my last post) so he would not be in the best position to make a dash for the corridor that leads to the kitchen as there sure would be many people trying to get through that narrow door already. So he would take another route and rush out from the door at the right side of the stove getting to the alder court and trying to reach the kitchen from outside picking whatever utensil he could use as a weapon on his way (surely the normal people sitting in the hall are not armed).

I'd like to think Garstan would come with Stigend. Is that okay for you Celuien?

lmp: I'm not sure how we could fit Rowenna with this scenario but let's come up with something?

What do you think? Other suggestions?

Lhunardawen · 07-08-2007, 06:35 AM

Ginna says hello, Noggie. I can't bear to miss this, so I stationed her in the kitchen. I hope nobody minds.

Oh, and she's holding a knife. Does she need more drama in her life?

littlemanpoet · 07-08-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

lmp: I'm not sure how we could fit Rowenna with this scenario but let's come up with something?

What do you think? Other suggestions?

Your plans work for me. What I stated earlier (So she might attempt to dissuade Stigend should he try to interfere, but in a very subtle way such as redirecting his path away from the cellar, if she can) is her ideal situation, how she would prefer things to work out. If they don't, she'll adapt.

littlemanpoet · 07-07-2007, 06:44 PM

I was planning to post today, but I want to wait for others to do so first.

The way it looks to me, Rowenna will probably have made her way into the mead hall to observe the goings on regarding Rilef. On her way she will listen for sounds in the cellar, and will be determined to not interfere, and if she can help it, not to let others interfere with Ghem's and the others' plans to escape, so that her checkered time with them does not come to light. So she might attempt to dissuade Stigend should he try to interfere, but in a very subtle way such as redirecting his path away from the cellar, if she can.

Do with that what you like, Noggie. I'll wait for more writers to post.

07-01-2007, 10:42 AM	#15
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Plot Contradiction Foley, you are using Léof in such a way that, considering my post just before yours, he has to be in two places at the same time. Can you do with just Garwine?

07-01-2007, 12:08 PM	#16
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Hm. You're right. Sorry. I was thinking...I was thinking incorrectly about something that no longer makes sense, so I won't explain. It was too late in the night to be writing... I'll fix it. But I have to go help make lunch/dinner now, so it will have to wait a while. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-01-2007, 01:52 PM	#17
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Hm. I edited Leof out of what I have so far, but I'm going to add some more and still have Thornden address him in the end. But I'm needed again, so, I'm afraid I can't do it now. EDIT: I have now completely edited my post. Does that work better, Elempi? -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis Last edited by Folwren; 07-01-2007 at 06:06 PM.

07-03-2007, 02:21 PM	#19
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I know I've promised this possibly a few times already, but I will be with the story in a Day or two... But really all kinds of things have been in the way, mainly unexpected works and enjoying the summer with Lommy & her sis. But now I'm going to be alone in the city for a couple of weeks and should have time also to catch up and take part in here... See you soon. I'm looking forwards to this new plot of yours Eala! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-08-2007, 06:19 AM	#24
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Here's what I've been thinking... So the outlaws get away and climb the stairs to the kitchen. Wasn't it so? In that case no one in the hall will have any idea they've escaped. Unless something betrays their escape. So could it be that someone is there in the kitchen or is just going back there and notices the outlaws there - and screams? Maybe if s/he is there already the outlaws might jump on her/him? Although I'm not sure if a plain scream would provoke the reaction we possibly want so maybe that person should openly call something like "the outlaws" or "they're loose" or whatever. Now I think Stigend is sitting quite near the stairs (as is implied from my last post) so he would not be in the best position to make a dash for the corridor that leads to the kitchen as there sure would be many people trying to get through that narrow door already. So he would take another route and rush out from the door at the right side of the stove getting to the alder court and trying to reach the kitchen from outside picking whatever utensil he could use as a weapon on his way (surely the normal people sitting in the hall are not armed). I'd like to think Garstan would come with Stigend. Is that okay for you Celuien? lmp: I'm not sure how we could fit Rowenna with this scenario but let's come up with something? What do you think? Other suggestions? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-17-2007, 04:37 PM	#2
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	O-oh. Oh dear. That's entirely my fault. I had thought I had read that somehwere, but then I couldn't remember where, and I guess I didn't try hard enough, but I didn't find it. Let me know what you decide on doing - changing your post or having me change mine. I'm leaving for camp shortly and will have to fix it later if you want me to do the changing. Sorry. -- Folwren

06-17-2007, 06:55 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	No problem. I'll change my post to have Haleth and his men leave without taking Rilef with them. That's about as simple a fix as I can devise.

06-20-2007, 03:43 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	What is needed to help my fellow rpg writers to post?

06-22-2007, 08:51 PM	#9
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	The wait is over; our post is up. Thanks for the patience.

06-21-2007, 09:38 AM	#11
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Cool! I'll wait somewhat patiently. (Eager to see what comes of it).

06-22-2007, 08:30 AM	#12
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	I will try to get something up there today from Elián.

07-03-2007, 01:37 PM	#18
Ealasaide Shadow of Tyrn Gorthad Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Fencing Lyst Posts: 810	Thanks for the floor plans, Elempi! Those will be very, very helpful to me. One question: Where's the door to the cellar? Could be very important... Eh, come to think of it, have you got a diagram of the cellars, as well? Or shall I just wing it? Sorry for my delay in posting, too. I've had way too many irons in the fire this week, but I do have a Ghem post partially written that I hope to finish sometime today.

07-07-2007, 01:54 AM	#21
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	It just occurred to me - does Thornden's wounded hand need any tending? I know someone who could possibly relate to the pain.

07-07-2007, 06:11 AM	#22
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Sorry, this has been a very busy week for me between 53 hours of work and my wife's family in town for Independence Day festivities and trying to catch up on an rpg I've been invited to join late. I hope to get caught up here by the end of today.

07-08-2007, 06:35 AM	#25
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Ginna says hello, Noggie. I can't bear to miss this, so I stationed her in the kitchen. I hope nobody minds. Oh, and she's holding a knife. Does she need more drama in her life? Last edited by Lhunardawen; 07-08-2007 at 06:42 AM.

07-07-2007, 06:44 PM	#27
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	I was planning to post today, but I want to wait for others to do so first. The way it looks to me, Rowenna will probably have made her way into the mead hall to observe the goings on regarding Rilef. On her way she will listen for sounds in the cellar, and will be determined to not interfere, and if she can help it, not to let others interfere with Ghem's and the others' plans to escape, so that her checkered time with them does not come to light. So she might attempt to dissuade Stigend should he try to interfere, but in a very subtle way such as redirecting his path away from the cellar, if she can. Do with that what you like, Noggie. I'll wait for more writers to post.

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