Treachery of Men Discussion/Planning Thread

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

And I'll have Folwren's kiss Well as Galadriel briefly to Ang's Celeborn, it is my right ..if one is taking it so seriously ( what kind of kiss are you imagining, Foley?!!) a kiss is just a kiss....

*mwa mwa mwa* (bisoux)

Any sort of kiss, from a gentleman, would not be acceptable to me. Save maybe one on the hand. However, I doubt that's what you or Ang had in mind.

But what would you care for my kiss? Unless I am sadly mistaken (and unless I have remained sadly mistaken for a very long time), you are a girl, aren't you?

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Ahem...back on track. Yes. Uldor would most certainly make very small mincemeat of your young, inexperienced Tathren if he had to carry on with Lachrandir.

Has Aman been around very much lately? I have not seen her. I think any of those that you mentioned would be fine. My only fears would be their lack of posting, for I don't know if any of them are around often. I could be mistaken, though. Let's wait to see if Elempi can do it.

-- Folwren

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Any sort of kiss, from a gentleman, would not be acceptable to me. Save maybe one on the hand. However, I doubt that's what you or Ang had in mind.

But what would you care for my kiss? Unless I am sadly mistaken (and unless I have remained sadly mistaken for a very long time), you are a girl, aren't you?


-- Folwren

Really Folwren, shame on you. For someone who generally seems to try to see the best in people you have managed to put the most unpleasant spin on something quite sweet and innocent. I also strongly advise you never to visit France where bisous

http://french.about.com/library/weekly/aa051801f.htm

is a part of social interraction. Having lived there for two years I have kissed both genders regardless of their marital status or indeed sexual orientation and do not regard it as a stain on my character. I have not yet met the handsome prince but I have certainly kissed a lot of Frogs!!

Once I got over the "In England we shake hands froideur" and the anxiety over which side to start and when to stop (the proper number depends on region) I found this warmer gesture rather delightful. And in my book it is the mark of a gentleman that he removes his spectacles first. A hand kiss can be enchanting if done properly with a bow a click of the heels and the merest suggestion of contact... http://sprezzatura.editthispage.com/kiss , although strictly speaking this like tiaras are the preserve of married woman. The film style hand kiss that is more of an arm lick is deeply sleazy.

Even in my reserved homeland a kiss is a usual greeting among some of my friends and family, often a single kiss combined with a half hug - not the mwah mwah air kiss of more pretentious circles. And with others a kiss is a common expression of hard to express emotions ..... kisses will be exchanged at weddings, births, deaths, sickbeds, on receiving presents, even with those with whom it is not a routine greeting. A world without these signs of affection, appreciation, comfort, condolence or congratulation would be colder and bleaker.

Of such a genre I took Ang's kisses to be and the kiss I claimed was the one of his you rejected... I did not wish for one from you personally and given that I am just about old enough to be his mother it would be inapropriate and rather sordid to claim anything other than a social kiss from him. I have the greatest affection for Anguirel.. but really.. the Galadriel / Celeborn thing was a jest , not a statement of cradle-snatching intent.

As for my suggestions for alternatives should LMP be unavailable, they may well be busy with other things but the fact that both are primarily RPG posters but not currently involved with RPGs gave the possibility that non-posting generally didn't automatically mean they were too busy..if that at least makes sense...

[Folwren]

I am most apologetic, then. I did not mean to imply any such thing as what you think I meant to imply.

Thank you. I have no intention of visiting France.

You're pardoned, of course, for what you said (as is Anguirel). I took no offense by anything, you do understand I hope. I was just...extracting myself from being included in the formatilites.

I'm all confused when I shoudln't be. Oh well.

Yes, your final paragraph made sense, about players being busy or not.

-- Folwren

[Child of the 7th Age]

My suggestion would be to wait for a response from Imp and cross our fingers. I'd love to see Aman or one of the others involved. However, Aman hasn't participated in an RPG for a year and a half and was unable to continue as the Green Dragon Innkeeper because of constraints of time. Envinyatar's last involvement was nine months ago when he posted in the Golden Perch. So, although there's always a possibility, I don't think we can count on these two at least.

There is another complication to throw into the pot. I've hesitated to say this publicly, since it was intended to be a mysterious plot twist. However, with the problems with posters we're now encountering, I thought others should be aware. According to our original planning for this game (plans made with Ang, Durelin, and Lalaith), my character is not long for this world () and is shortly expected to hit the dust. I was then supposed to pull out of the game. This early demise was connectd with the whole theme of "spying" that's been introduced at the Borim banquet. While there's been no specific time set for this event, I was thinking in terms of the hunt, which should come up shortly.

I would not want to scrap this idea since everything Khandr's done in this story has been leading up to this. But it does give us one less character and one less poster (namely me!) unless I scramble over to handle someone/something else. Are there other people needed beyond the head Elf?

[Folwren]

I'm fairly sure you could kill Khandr, as you're planning, and then play another part. I would hate to lose another gamer, though, so I would love it if you could somehow stay in the game, even if you had a different character.

Anguirel wants to still play Drendan and Gausen. His only other character was Lachrandir, who I'm hoping Elempi will play. So, there's none of Anguirel's characters that you need to take up. Lots of other characters were developed and then never used by other players. You could probably take any of them.

But I would be equally happy if you just came up with a new character of your own, if you so wished it.

I do hope you'll stay in the game.

-- Folwren

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Folwren

I am most apologetic, then. I did not mean to imply any such thing as what you think I meant to imply.

Thank you. I have no intention of visiting France.

You're pardoned, of course, for what you said (as is Anguirel). I took no offense by anything, you do understand I hope. I was just...extracting myself from being included in the formatilites.

I'm all confused when I shoudln't be. Oh well.
-- Folwren

Well I have to say I found what you actually said rather offensive even if that was not your intent.

But then I do not see anything that needs pardoning in my own words.

I am really not sure I want to be here anymore.

[Folwren]

.........

I totally thought you were joking the entire time.

I am very sorry.

EDIT: In all honesty, without the least shred of ill will - What did I say wrong? I don't understand. All I said was that I didn't want to be kissed until married, wasn't it? I can accept being rebuked when I put my foot in my mouth and I ought to know better - but I can't see it here.

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Folwren

In all honesty, without the least shred of ill will - What did I say wrong? I don't understand. All I said was that I didn't want to be kissed until married, wasn't it?

Cultural and/or ideological differences. But I must say that most of the world - I'd like to say all the world - does look at some religious minorities way of thinking a kiss to be something like a tabu quite ridiculous. I mean Jesus kissed his disciples and friends like everyone in the Middle-East do and have done since the time immemorial...

[Folwren]

Yes, perhaps my personal ideas and my family's ideas of what a kiss means are different from everyone else's, but what in heaven's name is insulting or offending about that?

A kiss, simple and modest, from a girl to a girl is a lovely thing, for, say, when friends meet or part. But between a boy and a girl, regardless of how modest and pure it may appear, is in no way acceptable to me or my parents. Not in America in this day and age anyway. Hugs are questionable enough!

-- Folwren

[Nogrod]

All the best for you Ang and I hope to see you back one day or another!


I should probably think all these news before I write anything... but I know myself and will come straight into it.

I've had a lot of things going on as well but the main reason why I have been especially away from this one is due to the structure of this game. Having a lot of characters and the action kind of concentrating on certain parts of the plot it's pretty hard to play a character who although is a major character (by writing standards) is clearly a minor character in the storyline. So there is not much more than "X walked around and thought of this and that" - kind of posts to be made as such a nobody can't actually refigure the plot which seems quite well planned ahead.

Maybe that's what some others have felt as well?

But if the story is moving forwards and we come to the hunting fex. I'm ready and willing to join in again. It's just that there is very little meningful posting to be done for a Borrim hunter who knows hardly anyone in the town right now - and whose writer is unsure who of the other writers are actually present waiting for something to do or just totally away.

But I do hope that this would move forwards...