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Old 07-16-2007, 08:20 PM   #1
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I should think that the Eorl of the Middle Emnet has more than just one man at arms after a couple months
Exactly to the point. Stigend was hired for two purposes, because he was a handy craftsman but also because he had served in the men at arms... but surely there are others beside Thornden and Garwine...

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How many, I don't know; something that seems reasonable.
Will we try to be historical (whatever it is?) or "Tolkienish" (whatever it is?) or just plain "fanfic-writers" (whatever it is?)?

I'd say 3-5 would sound realistic to me as permanent household knights / men at arms, whatever. To these would be added people like Thornden and Stigend with their respective roles in the Mead Hall. Not to say the quests...

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As to the situation in the kitchen, I thought Ghem was pretty stupid and overly loyal in not just ducking out the Alder Court door and leaving Ulric and Withold in the lurch; I would probably have had Falco not see him until too late. But that option was not chosen
As I said earlier: a nice move, but not the best for Ghem. Now we need to think something different...

One suggestion would be: we have never said how ready the kitchen was. I mean that has been all the way under construction - the oven and the fireplace are made as Garstan has done that and the passage from the Hall is ready as well as Stigend has done that but maybe there is some unfinished work in the kitchen Ghem might use for his escape?

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Speaking of which, I would expect that Ulric and Withold, and Ghem for that matter, realize that time is of the essence, and they are losing it rapidly the longer they just stand there and hold the two women hostage. So as time progresses, the initiative and advantage will switch to the Eorl's House, away from the outlaws.
That's the reason why I thought Eala should post asp but his latest post didn't kind of solve the problem - even if it was an imaginative one and pretty good as such.

But we'll surely solve this.

One thing coming to my mind - and probably the best I have right now - would be another miscalculation of Stigend (I can write that, surely - easily tomorrow = under 24 hours). He could try to take on Withold and saving Ginna with a risk. That would leave a path open for a "quick reacting" Ghem to unbolt the door and run away to the Alder Court. Then it would be a question only how Falco and Thornden fail to catch him...
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:26 PM   #2
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A quick addenda...

Seeing lmp's last post I don't think Stigend would disobey his lord's word and try to attack Withold... really... he would not.

We need to get into the structure of the kitchen then?
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Triple posting...

Okay, one more idea.

If it's okay with Lhuna that Ginna will be wounded we might go this way...

After the general rant described by lmp Withold would get overloaded with tension and cut Ginna's throat with his knife (well not mortally anyway as possibly Ginna would be spirited enough to make a last moment duck away from the mortal wound or something) to show they mean it and should be set free... stupid but understandable.

Stigend would run on Withold and attack him and just then Ghem might try to slip away from the bolted door (as Stigend is no more in his way) - and all these Eodwine's men he sent outside to the Alder Court would not yet be in place... So he should only manage to get past Falco outside (and possibly Thornden - not easy that one!)?

What do you think?

As I have a few days left of my luxurious holidays I would be happy to write a post staging that situation tomorrow.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:59 AM   #4
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:41 AM   #5
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Isn't it too much for Ginna? And I forgot she still had her bandage on! I don't mind personally, if she has to be wounded again, though, if it's really necessary.

I was thinking she could probably do some brave but stupid move to save herself or something, but I don't know how. I'll just follow what happens for now.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:51 AM   #6
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I NEVER claimed that Ghem was mental giant. I did have something planned, but subsequent events have mucked it up, so I am re-thinking the situation.

Do I have a say in what the outlaws do? It looks like you all are planning it out for me. Do I have to do what you decide?
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:00 AM   #7
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Having had to trash my earlier plan (& my post for Elian), I am now working on a new Outlaw post.
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