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davem · 07-22-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Morthoron

StW, it may please you to know that the movie Becket (1964, starring Peter O'Toole, Richard Burton and John Gielgud) has finally been released on DVD. It's a superb bookend to The Lion in Winter, with O'Toole playing a much younger (and feistier) Henry II and Burton as Archbishop Becket. They just don't make movies like that anymore (FotR included).

Well, haven't checked yet if one of my favourites is on there, but here's some good news about it>

Olivier's Henry V http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nhenry120.xml

Now that's a cavalry charge! Watch & weep PJ!

Sir Kohran · 07-22-2007, 02:48 AM

I'd like to see how FOTR counts as an American movie. The American author? The American director? The American writers? The American filming locations? The American production and design companies? I've got nothing against the US but this seems a bit forced.

davem · 07-22-2007, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Kohran

I'd like to see how FOTR counts as an American movie. The American author? The American director? The American writers? The American filming locations? The American production and design companies? I've got nothing against the US but this seems a bit forced.

American money?

Sir Kohran · 07-22-2007, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by davem

American money?

The definition given above cites 'significant creative and/or production elements from the United States'. I suppose money counts as a production element but that still seems rather thin.

Nogrod · 07-22-2007, 06:14 AM

If a movie is budgeted and marketed by Hollywood then it is a Hollywood film and thence American. There's nothing thin in it but fat wallets and bigtime marketing companies.

And that's what Hollywood films are, an enterprise, a way of making more money with money...

Morthoron · 07-22-2007, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by davem

Well, haven't checked yet if one of my favourites is on there, but here's some good news about it>

Olivier's Henry V http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nhenry120.xml

Now that's a cavalry charge! Watch & weep PJ!

That is great news. Unfortunately, it will probably take forever to get over to the States, and even longer still to reach DVD format. Did you like the Kenneth Brannagh version? Totally different in viewpoint than the Olivier masterpiece, but quite good in its own right. To put a LotR spin on this post, I still consider Sir Ian McKellan's portrayal of Richard III one of the best Shakespeare adaptations I've ever seen. The look of utter malevolence on McKellan's face in the film's final scene is horrifying.

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07-22-2007, 06:14 AM	#5
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	If a movie is budgeted and marketed by Hollywood then it is a Hollywood film and thence American. There's nothing thin in it but fat wallets and bigtime marketing companies. And that's what Hollywood films are, an enterprise, a way of making more money with money... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...