Eorling Mead Hall Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 07-22-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

even if it is Elborn in the hall that Stigend hears, maybe Leof could be there too? Perhaps when Thornden ran out into the courtyard, he might have told Leof to check the hallway? Is that okay?

The request of Thornden is a bit hard as Stigend has already consumed some time at the residential quarters.. But it could be quite okay if he'd just alarmed him in general... but if Thornden didn't call for Leof especially he might just be leaning over the hay somewhere in the stables as well? Then it would be as understandable that Stigend didn't notice him... but that all depends on how cognisant of the last events Leof was... MAybe the middle-solution is the best one?

For if he knew there was something wrong and things happening he should be in the hall looking what's the matter (as he was not in the actual fight anyway) but if he didn't realise that at all (which I find a bit unbelievable) then he might have a nap in the stables...

So maybe Leof should be in the hall better than not be there?

I mean if Thornden had given him an order he would have obeyd that and either had been involved in the fight in the ALder court or had been already in the "quarters" and thence met Stigend already... So maybe he's just come in to learn out the things himself - and meets Stigend who's about to kill him before he realises who he is...

That in case you have time to write pretty soon as I think Lhuna and lmp both are pretty active right now and possibly (hopefully) Eala as well...

But do write! It would be nice to have more voices in here!

Nogrod · 07-22-2007, 05:32 PM

And anyhow, anyone, do come in the hall!

Everyone's character can be fitted in so do not hesitate!

PS. It's funny though that there's already two posts that say that Harreld will get Ginna out of the Alder court through the kitchen door when it is a real detour, while they could just walk straight in from the Hall-door which Stigend used (and Thornden and Falco earlier) if they were to go to the residential quarters to Modtryth and the kids.

Lhunardawen · 07-22-2007, 07:00 PM

Well, Ginna considers the kitchen familiar territory...

If she could read the posts I'm reading from the other characters, she would be feeling extremely stupid and ashamed right now. As such, I'm feeling stupid and ashamed for her.

Firefoot · 07-22-2007, 07:20 PM

Here's the way I see it:

Leof and Thornden were in the stables when most of the happenings in the kitchen occurred. They hear vague noise and commotion - shortly (perhaps when it doesn't immediately die down), Thornden ran out into the courtyard. Two things could then happen (I'm going to number all points to keep them straight...):

1a) Leof stays in the stables.

1b) Thornden tells Leof to check the halls, since neither of them know what's going on.

2) Question: Does the residence wing have one or two floors? Where do those stairs go - the cellar?

3) At this point, Stigend enters the stables. Now, he walks all the way through them - even if Stigend didn't see Leof, Leof would have seen him - he's pretty in tune to what happens there. This then contradicts point 1a.

4) Stigend enters the residence wing. Leof isn't immediately in sight. Ergo, he must either be in a room or upstairs or the cellar (point 2). The second two make more sense... and if it's the cellar, Leof would then realize that the outlaws have escaped and make the connection with the earlier commotion.

5) Stigend and Leof hook up? Elborn shows up?

littlemanpoet · 07-22-2007, 09:04 PM

The "residential wing" has a floor level and an upstairs.

Harreld would most certainly take Ginna by the quickest way to the residence wing, namely through the door you mentioned. Can any posts with stuff about that please be revised accordingly? Thanks.

Also, there needs to be, at some point very soon, an outburst from Frodides along the lines of "What has happened to my kitchen?!?" For surely she would be relatively near. Kath?

Lhunardawen · 07-22-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Harreld would most certainly take Ginna by the quickest way to the residence wing, namely through the door you mentioned. Can any posts with stuff about that please be revised accordingly? Thanks.

Will do, sire.

Kath · 07-23-2007, 09:53 AM

Right, yes, sorry. I sort of lost Frodides and Kara when all this started and have been trying to work out where they'd be. And while I'm admitting my total confusion ... what has happened to the kitchen? Apart from the apparent lack of either Kara or Ginna being in it?

07-22-2007, 05:32 PM	#2
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	And anyhow, anyone, do come in the hall! Everyone's character can be fitted in so do not hesitate! PS. It's funny though that there's already two posts that say that Harreld will get Ginna out of the Alder court through the kitchen door when it is a real detour, while they could just walk straight in from the Hall-door which Stigend used (and Thornden and Falco earlier) if they were to go to the residential quarters to Modtryth and the kids. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

07-22-2007, 09:04 PM	#5
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	The "residential wing" has a floor level and an upstairs. Harreld would most certainly take Ginna by the quickest way to the residence wing, namely through the door you mentioned. Can any posts with stuff about that please be revised accordingly? Thanks. Also, there needs to be, at some point very soon, an outburst from Frodides along the lines of "What has happened to my kitchen?!?" For surely she would be relatively near. Kath? Last edited by littlemanpoet; 07-22-2007 at 09:08 PM.

07-23-2007, 09:53 AM	#7
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Right, yes, sorry. I sort of lost Frodides and Kara when all this started and have been trying to work out where they'd be. And while I'm admitting my total confusion ... what has happened to the kitchen? Apart from the apparent lack of either Kara or Ginna being in it? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

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07-22-2007, 07:00 PM	#3
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Well, Ginna considers the kitchen familiar territory... If she could read the posts I'm reading from the other characters, she would be feeling extremely stupid and ashamed right now. As such, I'm feeling stupid and ashamed for her.

07-22-2007, 07:20 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Here's the way I see it: Leof and Thornden were in the stables when most of the happenings in the kitchen occurred. They hear vague noise and commotion - shortly (perhaps when it doesn't immediately die down), Thornden ran out into the courtyard. Two things could then happen (I'm going to number all points to keep them straight...): 1a) Leof stays in the stables. 1b) Thornden tells Leof to check the halls, since neither of them know what's going on. 2) Question: Does the residence wing have one or two floors? Where do those stairs go - the cellar? 3) At this point, Stigend enters the stables. Now, he walks all the way through them - even if Stigend didn't see Leof, Leof would have seen him - he's pretty in tune to what happens there. This then contradicts point 1a. 4) Stigend enters the residence wing. Leof isn't immediately in sight. Ergo, he must either be in a room or upstairs or the cellar (point 2). The second two make more sense... and if it's the cellar, Leof would then realize that the outlaws have escaped and make the connection with the earlier commotion. 5) Stigend and Leof hook up? Elborn shows up?