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Old 09-04-2007, 12:33 PM   #1
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Regarding Brinniel, it is possible that she's a wolf. She doesn't really say much the first Day, preferring to discuss possible meanings of the narration. Her vote for Sauce when the votes could go any way seemed out of place to me if they were both Wolves, but Kath, in her first post, suspected a Wolf-on-Wolf there, and I would tend to treat Kath as being trustworthy at this point given her role in lynching Nogrod yesterday. Her reasoning makes some sense as well, and I would like to add that a risky maneuver like that, if successful, might be a good way for a wolf to cast off suspicion. SpM suspects Brinniel a bit toDay as well, but then suspects Durelin more, possibly a way of maintaining a pre-agreed wolf-on-wolf-plan like what Kath seems to have been thinking of. Focusing more attention on Durelin would help to keep people's attention off Isabellkya, a wise precaution to keep Brinniel safe after the death of Nogrod.

Also noteworthy is the fact that we have Nogrod hinting that Sauce's in-game comments make him look suspicious but then dropping the matter and keeping his fanged mouth shut, even going so far as to actively discourage suspicion on that basis. I've seen this type of tactic in Wolves before. One of them will notice that another is doing something suspicious, then gently hints that said activity be stopped while disguising it as honest suspicion. The difference withNogrod here is that Sauce didn't take his advice, as he mentions the cards again in his next post, so Nogrod tries to clean up the mess he's made before it gets worse.

So we have Nogrod the Werewolf possibly giving SpM hints, SpM and Brinniel suspecting each other to a certain extent, and SpM defending Nogrod throughout Day 1 (claiming he's innocent and posting suspicions of Kath.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:36 PM   #2
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Aaaaaaaack! I meant to say "Brinniel" in paragraph 1, not "Isabellkya!"
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:52 PM   #3
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I would just like to add that in what I quoted of Isabellkya in my previous post, she expresses that 'it was so obvious that Nogrod was a Wolf', as if to assure us that 'I totally would have voted for Nogrod if I had been here'?

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Izzy is likely innocent. We don't think Nogrod would have risked building a case against a fellow wolf so early and so consistently.
Nogrod doesn't even mention 'Izzy' until his fourth post, and then only as part of a rather large list (considering the size of this village) of people he wants to look at.

When he does actually look at her, he says:

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She just might be a baddie although the grounds are pretty weak. But the best I have this far.
Which, when compared to what he has to say about the other three he looks at (myself, Brinniel, and Kath), isn't much different. He does conclude that post saying she is the most suspicious, though.

In his next post he lumps the same four together, and divides them between two lists: the more and the little less suspicious, it seems.

At least remaining, of course, consistent, he does vote for her. A Day 1 case and vote...probably would have been forgotten by toDay even if Nogrod was not killed and found out. Not much of a risk.

So, I did forget that he voted for her, but I definitely don't feel like it rules her out. The only person I am going to risk ruling out for now is Kath because of the placement of her vote.

*suddenly eyes Menel* Following Rikae's lead?
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:28 PM   #4
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Durelin, I was merely laughing at the perfect hindsight of it. I was not and am not saying that it was that obvious. Nor am I saying that I totally would've voted for Nogrod, had I been here to vote; as I read the Night plot before catching up on yesterDay's readings.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:59 PM   #5
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Hey ho. What am I to make of the fact that Cailomer's interpretation of Nogrod's posts largely mirrors my own? Perhaps, given my track record thus far, I should be worried. On balance, though, I find that it inclines me to trust them more.

A greater cause for concern. Durelin is speaking decidedly good sense.

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Rikae's "if Brinniel, then not Espiem, but if not Brinniel then Espiem" bothers me, but what bothers me even more is her "let's get to the bottom of this", as if we are all on the same page, we've explored every other avenue, this is our only lead, this is the last piece of the puzzle...or something.
This bothers me too. But I still find it unlikely that, with Nogrod on two votes and knowing that I was around, she would have drawn me level with him, if a Wolf. Surely she would have voted for someone else on one vote who was unlikely to return. That said, I most definately do not discount her possible Cobblerishness.

Her points on Isabellkya also make sense. However, Nogrod knows full well the tendency for the quieter participants to attract votes on Day 1. Accordingly, his vote looks more like scapegoating that Wolf-on-Wolf to me. That's not to discount her entirely, particularly as she does feel very non-committal, but there are others that I find more suspicious right now.

So why does the fact that Durelin is talking sense concern me? Well, it seems to have come about just as she is coming under some pressure.

In other news, we have Menel accusing me of being in league with Brinniel. Well, I am provided that she is innocent. But, given that she has recently reclaimed her position as one of my top suspects, I somehow don't really feel like I am in league with her at present.

As for Noggie supposedly dropping me hints to tone down my act, well if that's the best that you can come up with, I have nothing to fear.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:28 PM   #6
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We think also that Menel or Brinniel is as wicked as Big-Fist the Siren. If Durelin should prove innocent, then Rikae may be another character to look at; but we are quite sure of this:

++DURELIN

We outlined our reasons earlier. Durelin shall be as Aed.

On the Barrow, by a sharp-pointed spear,
Aed, Fidga’s son, has fallen:
By the spear of Fiacal,
Finn has slain him.


Venom is this spear,
And venomous he whose it is,
Venomous whoever threw it,
Venom for him whom it laid low


So sayeth the Warriors of Finn.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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Have you considered, Espiem, that only Day 1 has passed, and rarely do I waste my time trying to make sense on Day 1? Sometimes I do choose to make sense after that. Sometimes I actually read (most of) the thread. Sometimes.

ToDay I chose to make sense because I only had one class.

Oh, and as I forgot to say earlier - please stop trying to pinpoint 'typical Durelin'. I don't know who she is or where to find her either, so you may as well give up.

Eomer/Cailin's short-minded sort of consistency bothers me (posts to explain who they think is suspicious, then posts to vote for who he/she said in previous post was suspicious...done), and the way he/she is remaining somehow detached reminds me of Cailin-wolf. Still, I won't go with a plain old retaliatory vote I don't think. There are so many other lovely people who are calling for me vote, too... *le sigh*

Sauce is not spell-checking his posts. I don't think he's a wolf at the moment.

What I believe to be possible Wolf pairs (assuming there are two wolves left, which I think we've pretty much decided) at the moment:

Isabellkya and Rikae

Menel and Rikae

Brinniel and Eomer

So many to choose, so little time and posting...
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