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Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-08-2007, 06:54 AM

It could be a hobbit. It reminds me of Treebeard's new description in his list. And the hobbits obviously look weak, but as we know, are actually quite tough.

Rumil · 09-08-2007, 06:36 PM

As Legate says we're thinking hobbits here,

my guess is Frodo,

Cheers

The Might · 09-09-2007, 05:11 AM

Again a quick and correct answer Legate.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-09-2007, 01:13 PM

Well, what to say, I am back

All right, I hope you'd like the following one.

Memory of old
that I still hold:
That distant day
Last glimpse of gold
turning to grey.

Followed my way:
Another day
another world
falling to dark.
Shores of the sea;
just little spark
of jealousy.

High hopes and light
and the soul sold.
Power and pride.
All smooth and cold.

Glory and grace,
everything's gone:
Weary old face,
voice but a moan;
dust in my eyes -
all that remained.

Going in circles.
Cannot be saved.

I don't want just the answer, I'd also like (it may be just roughly) the explanation of all the parts of the riddle. Answer without explanation won't be considered an answer and I won't say even if it's right or wrong.

Gil-Galad · 09-09-2007, 01:25 PM

Saruman

Memory of old
that I still hold:
That distant day - when he left valinor
Last glimpse of gold
turning to grey.

Followed my way:
Another day
another world
falling to dark. - journeyed eastwards
Shores of the sea;
just little spark
of jealousy. - jealous of the one ring

High hopes and light - beleived he would succeed
and the soul sold.
Power and pride.
All smooth and cold.

Glory and grace,
everything's gone: - was defeated
Weary old face,
voice but a moan; - lost his power after staff broken
dust in my eyes -
all that remained.

Going in circles.
Cannot be saved. - his spirit tries to go west but a strong wind constently pushes it east

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-10-2007, 06:06 AM

I thought this would be an easy one. Some of the riddle's parts were meant differently than you interpretate them, but my point was that you have at least general idea and not just blindly shooting in the dark.

(For eventual interpreters, I'd only correct two important moments in the riddle: the "jealousy" was a hint on Gandalf who received Narya right after his arrival; and the final two lines were not supposed to point to bruta facta as Gil interpreted it

but pointing to Saruman's constant rejecting of mercy offered to him by Gandalf, Galadriel, Frodo etc.)

Enough of this. Gil-Galad, well done, it's your turn now.

The Might · 09-30-2007, 02:08 PM

Umm...Gil-Galad?

09-08-2007, 06:54 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It could be a hobbit. It reminds me of Treebeard's new description in his list. And the hobbits obviously look weak, but as we know, are actually quite tough. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-08-2007, 06:36 PM	#2
Rumil Sage & Onions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Britain Posts: 894	As Legate says we're thinking hobbits here, my guess is Frodo, Cheers __________________ Rumil of Coedhirion

09-09-2007, 05:11 AM	#3
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Again a quick and correct answer Legate. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

09-09-2007, 01:13 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, what to say, I am back All right, I hope you'd like the following one. Memory of old that I still hold: That distant day Last glimpse of gold turning to grey. Followed my way: Another day another world falling to dark. Shores of the sea; just little spark of jealousy. High hopes and light and the soul sold. Power and pride. All smooth and cold. Glory and grace, everything's gone: Weary old face, voice but a moan; dust in my eyes - all that remained. Going in circles. Cannot be saved. I don't want just the answer, I'd also like (it may be just roughly) the explanation of all the parts of the riddle. Answer without explanation won't be considered an answer and I won't say even if it's right or wrong. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories Last edited by Legate of Amon Lanc; 09-09-2007 at 01:21 PM.

09-09-2007, 01:25 PM	#5
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Saruman Memory of old that I still hold: That distant day - when he left valinor Last glimpse of gold turning to grey. Followed my way: Another day another world falling to dark. - journeyed eastwards Shores of the sea; just little spark of jealousy. - jealous of the one ring High hopes and light - beleived he would succeed and the soul sold. Power and pride. All smooth and cold. Glory and grace, everything's gone: - was defeated Weary old face, voice but a moan; - lost his power after staff broken dust in my eyes - all that remained. Going in circles. Cannot be saved. - his spirit tries to go west but a strong wind constently pushes it east __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-10-2007, 06:06 AM	#6
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Correct. I thought this would be an easy one. Some of the riddle's parts were meant differently than you interpretate them, but my point was that you have at least general idea and not just blindly shooting in the dark. (For eventual interpreters, I'd only correct two important moments in the riddle: the "jealousy" was a hint on Gandalf who received Narya right after his arrival; and the final two lines were not supposed to point to bruta facta as Gil interpreted it but pointing to Saruman's constant rejecting of mercy offered to him by Gandalf, Galadriel, Frodo etc.) Enough of this. Gil-Galad, well done, it's your turn now. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-30-2007, 02:08 PM	#7
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Umm...Gil-Galad? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

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