Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion

[littlemanpoet]

The following is from a recent planning exchange between Helen and me, and we decided it's worth posting here for other active writers, especially Fea since it impacts her character plenty.

The fact of Indil/Angela complicates things for Raefindan/Imrazor rather mightily. That Fea chose that particular character was a rather powerful plot twist in its own right. Let me explain.

My theory on Roy Edwards, in terms of my own story, is that his journey into holiness results in his final disappearance from Ælde as he shifts into Eden/Paradise; at the moment of this shift, he detours into Middle Earth for this adventure of the Tapestry of Dreams. And so does Angela (which technically doesn't make sense because Indil is 7 years old and Angela has only been dead for 5 years, but we don't need to worry about that). But Roy has this amazing history he hadn't been aware of (which can remain localized to this rpg and need not enter my own story) such that he was Imrazor, and therefore partly Eldar, about to be reunited with Mithrellas! She will recognize him right off, and he will finally "get it", but Angela/Indil is right there too.

Roy will of course ask, "why?" And he will be tugged in two different directions, to what end I can't foresee yet.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Ack.

My brain is melting. I should most probably wait for morning to think about this for so many reasons...

I knew that pulling your Angela into my Indil would offer plot complications for Raefindan/Imrazor, though I probably should have taken more into account your original plan for your original story. I also should admit that it's been a rather long while since I've perused your xanga account and read the work you've posted, so a lot of my ideas are pure whim with forgetfulness and lagging to account for.

I'm not sure... did I ever specify Indil's age? I know it was never solid in my mind, so I'm quite fine with negotiating it for continuity, however that might work.

Another thing, I never really meant Indil to be a main character. It just happened, the same way it tends to happen when I start writing with others. I probably should have foreseen. Since she now is, what happens to her becomes rather critical.

As a descendant of Mithrellas, she has every right to her dreams of the woman, and of Imrazor. As a human who has experienced trauma, I can explain away her nightmares and hallucinations, and the wall in her mind.

Her tie to Angela is what concerns me right now. Everything else I can shrug off and deal with, but Angela was originally yours, Elempi, and I don't want to do anything that messes with what you've got going on.

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

She will recognize him right off, and he will finally "get it", but Angela/Indil is right there too.

Roy will of course ask, "why?" And he will be tugged in two different directions, to what end I can't foresee yet.

Would it simplify matters for we writers and add to our story (I tend to strive for both at once, if you follow) for Indil/internally-located-others to die before this Imrazor/Mithrellas reunion takes place? If so, how. If not, what do we do with the little girl.

I'll think about it more tomorrow...

Until then, sleep is so important to me...

[littlemanpoet]

Don't worry about any harmonies with my story, Fea. I consider the two things to be quite divorced, even though I can still play with the fiction that the characters are the same.

And don't let's kill of Indil! All I'm doing is thinking out loud about what this rpg promises for interesting plot twist. I'm looking forward to it. I love having characters in very complicated emotional/relational spots; it helps define them. And it's a heck of a lot of fun to figure out how to write the story into a resolution of such knots. So worry not, and let's have at it.

If you want to have Indil be 5 instead of 7, that's cool.

So far your ideas of pure whim have worked out great. I have interpreted the "opaque" part of Indil's mind to be Angela herself.

And I like it that Indil has turned into a main character.

If you write anything Angela-wise that really doesn't work, I'll let you know. That's a promise. I appreciate your sensitivity. But I'm not worried.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

If you write anything Angela-wise that really doesn't work, I'll let you know. That's a promise. I appreciate your sensitivity. But I'm not worried.

Awesome.

[mark12_30]

Yes, awesome. I like whta is hapening here; lmp, thanks for the encouragement on all sides.

TO explain my recent Mellondu post: Having 'hosted' Amroth for so long, and having watched Amroth's remembrances of Nimrodel, and being a youthful dreamish boy-- Mellondu is trespassing; he has fallen for Nimrodel. Twas to be expected but is a heinous trespass nonetheless.. How and whether he survives al this remains to be seen.

Just another twist/ braid/tapestry thing.

Which is, as lmp points out, what makes this game such a fun one. We keep talking about Unraveeling; but really, the point is to "ravel"; all these weavings are what makes this work.

TIme for some more dreams, somewhere.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by mark12_30

TIme for some more dreams, somewhere.

[mark12_30]

Fea, that rocked.

Brrr.

[littlemanpoet]

Yikes, Fea! He's nastier than I thought. Kreepy!

Now I'm just wondering, did I see a new whim just crop up, a new possibility, that Mithrellas = Angela = Indil/Eledhwen?

Wow!

That is, they are somehow all the same entity? That's making my brain chugachug and the gears aren't quite grasping the sprockets, if you take my meaning.

Can't post now, will have to wait until later tonight or next day or so.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Now I'm just wondering, did I see a new whim just crop up, a new possibility, that Mithrellas = Angela = Indil/Eledhwen?

It's certainly a possibility that's been running through my mind for awhile, but it's by no means finite. Just an idea, you see, that can grow or shrink as needed or desired. Because I like the possibilities that evolve with so many strong personalities floating around ME.

And I find it wonderful and fascinating that I got the idea of the three of them being tied to each other from you, yet you seem not to have had it at all until I wrote it.

[littlemanpoet]

I'm having some difficulty trying to figure out what to write next. I have four active characters, any one of whom could be written about, but which one deserves the most attention? Which one moves the plot forward the most? Certainly not Ædegard. Jorje? Waiting mode for those two, really. I'm waiting for Ravion and Mellonin to do something, or for Liornung to say something.

As for Tharonwe, it feels like a natural to have him mull this whole thing over again, and then do some more evil osanwe.

Raefindan/Roy? Maybe it's time to dream. Is it night time for that group? Feeling a little at loose ends after reading two dreams, I guess.....

[littlemanpoet]

Cool post, Formy! You did slightly differently than I had expected, but it turned out better. Or worse - for Raefindan/Roy, I should say. Wow! Plenty of grist. I hope to get a chance tonight to post.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Hey, just throwing my head in to say I've been sickly and busy, but I do plan on posting in the near future. Not today. Maybe tomorrow.

[littlemanpoet]

I got a plot twist of a post. I'll put it up now.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Hey, my dears. Indil's glad to see Raefindan, Raefindan's vocabulary (until Elempi or someone writes otherwise) is kind of limited to "unghhhh," and Tharonwe might at some point in his career have read Machiavelli's Il Principe. Sorry Saturday's not quite Thursday.