Denethor's plunge - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nazgûl-king · 12-08-2007, 11:41 PM

I am kinda currious how he got that far that fast, but it is a pretty cool looking scene.

Diane C · 09-25-2008, 01:17 AM

I know I'm raking up an old thread here, but this particular scene has always bothered me. In fact the whole funeral pyre thing was just too clumsy & ill conceived in my eyes, right the from the moment Gandalf enters on Shadowfax.

He rides up and manages to knock Denathor flying off his pyre, but then rather than worrying about Faramir, who is also on the bonfire and unconscious Gandalf continues to faff about with Denathor, leaving it to Merry do somehow jump on the stack and push Faramir's dead weight from the burning pile. And then Shadowfax rears up and knocks Denathor back onto the fire, who then legs it all the way down the Silent Street and off!

I just found the entire scene contrived and not at all believable, sorry

Blokdog · 09-25-2008, 04:01 AM

I think we should just look at an ordinary armour: first, a shirt is worn. above this, a vest, and only then comes the mail. over that the robe and other things... so, if the flames from the pyre burned his robe, It may have taken at least a few minutes to heaten the inside of the armour, although the question what exactly burned after the robe was consumed remains. as you see, with tea it's the same: if the steel is hot, you take it using some other material.

12-08-2007, 11:41 PM	#1
Nazgûl-king Wight Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 104	I am kinda currious how he got that far that fast, but it is a pretty cool looking scene. Last edited by Nazgûl-king; 06-13-2008 at 04:56 AM.

09-25-2008, 01:17 AM	#2
Diane C Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The other side of the rainbow! Posts: 22	I know I'm raking up an old thread here, but this particular scene has always bothered me. In fact the whole funeral pyre thing was just too clumsy & ill conceived in my eyes, right the from the moment Gandalf enters on Shadowfax. He rides up and manages to knock Denathor flying off his pyre, but then rather than worrying about Faramir, who is also on the bonfire and unconscious Gandalf continues to faff about with Denathor, leaving it to Merry do somehow jump on the stack and push Faramir's dead weight from the burning pile. And then Shadowfax rears up and knocks Denathor back onto the fire, who then legs it all the way down the Silent Street and off! I just found the entire scene contrived and not at all believable, sorry __________________ *My Friends - You Bow To No One!"*

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09-25-2008, 04:01 AM	#3
Blokdog Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 15	I think we should just look at an ordinary armour: first, a shirt is worn. above this, a vest, and only then comes the mail. over that the robe and other things... so, if the flames from the pyre burned his robe, It may have taken at least a few minutes to heaten the inside of the armour, although the question what exactly burned after the robe was consumed remains. as you see, with tea it's the same: if the steel is hot, you take it using some other material.