The Fellowship of the Fourth Age (Part 1): A New Beginning Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

piosenniel · 01-03-2008, 06:08 PM

So, is it pretty much the consensus that you are going to kill those captive Orcs? No one has spoken up about any other sort of deal; that's the sense I get from Nogrod's last post.

If so - then I need to figure out something to do with Rôg and Undómë will need to do something with her 2 characters.

Was Lindil or Aiwendil going to chime in?

Folwren · 01-03-2008, 07:47 PM

Pio, his last post (if you're talking about the last one here on this thread) was humorous...almost sarcasm, methinks. His threat was commical. He's not killing any orcs.

I believe that the plan is to have everyone distracted by the kids in the pit, though how that will cure the problem entirely, I'm not yet certain.

Whatever the case, you're right. Things do need to be figured out with Rog and Undome's two characters.

Nogrod · 01-03-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

So, is it pretty much the consensus that you are going to kill those captive Orcs? No one has spoken up about any other sort of deal; that's the sense I get from Nogrod's last post.

Ahh... sorry!

Child wishes to get Makdush killed and a row in the crowd would make a good explanation why someone kills Makdush in sudden anger (someone just jumps on one of the orcs and that happens to be Makdush) before anyone can stop the act.

I should have said that...

Other orcs should stay alive I believe.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 01-04-2008, 11:40 AM

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Child wishes to get Makdush killed ....

Aww darn, I really enjoy reading about Makdush!

Child of the 7th Age · 01-04-2008, 12:05 PM

Ah, but his death will mean something, and I won't kill him off unless this is so.

Tevildo · 01-05-2008, 10:03 PM

I could do a post where Azhar runs over to tell everyone what's happened to the children, but before that would anyone like to do any further posts in response to Lindir on the release of the orcs and/or Rog? Or shall I just add a sentence or two at the beginning of my own post, mentioning that the orcs are now free?

piosenniel · 01-05-2008, 10:15 PM

Hey Tevildo!

I just put up a SAVE - I'll try to get something up a little later that leaves the Orcs freed and Rôg back with the fellowship.

Does that sound alright?

~*~ Pio

Tevildo · 01-06-2008, 12:16 AM

Meow....meow!

Sounds good to me.

Nogrod · 01-03-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by piosenniel

that's the sense I get from Nogrod's last post.

If you refer to my last post in the actual thread then I think I need to explain it shortly.

It seemed that everyone (our characters) would be for letting the orcs live - and why not as it's our aim in the end. Now just a moment ago they were ready to kill them. There needed be some credible opposition so I tried to bring that forwards in my last posts in the thread so that our characters could argue against an openly spoken "let's kill them" mentality.

I've never wished for the orcs to die (I even opposed Child's decision to kill Makdush - well I lightly protested to her about it - but surely it's her character and she can do with him whatever she wishes). On the contrary. Writing the orcs has been one of the most interesting things of this game!

Child of the 7th Age · 01-03-2008, 08:51 PM

I've put up a save for Aiwendil and Lindir, which I'll try to fill late tonight. Tolkien quite clearly states that, if an orc ever begged for mercy, the free peoples would be obliged to extend that mercy. Perhaps my two characters can be very clear about that.

Yes, I would like Makdush to die at some point, but not now..... I can think of several ways that his death could contribute to the story line. We'll just see how things play out. My guess is that, even if the orcs and uruk agree to travel with the larger band, they will not be in total agreement on the wisdom of so doing. Not that ANY of the orcs would be %100 enthusiastic about travelling with a group of humans, but some may be more or less hostile.

I've spoken with Regin about his characters. He sees no way he can participate in an RPG before the summer. I agreed to carry Ishkur, and I feel he is more central to the plot than Makdush.

My personal preference is that the group decide, with some misgivings, not to execute the orcs. However, I also think that the decision to travel together would not come at this time. Surely, the fact that Gwella, of her own free will, offered to help the children would have some bearing on this.

Undómë · 01-03-2008, 09:01 PM

The exchange of the captive Orcs for Rôg would offer the humans at least one way of saving face about letting the perceived enemy go. Saving one of their fellowship would take precedence over letting him be killed, don't you think?

Or it's at least a credible point to start in making that decision . . . or so it seems to me.

Child of the 7th Age · 01-03-2008, 10:31 PM

Undómë -

I could definitely live with that. I'll try to take that into account as I do my post.

01-03-2008, 06:08 PM	#1
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	So, is it pretty much the consensus that you are going to kill those captive Orcs? No one has spoken up about any other sort of deal; that's the sense I get from Nogrod's last post. If so - then I need to figure out something to do with Rôg and Undómë will need to do something with her 2 characters. Was Lindil or Aiwendil going to chime in? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

01-03-2008, 07:47 PM	#2
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Pio, his last post (if you're talking about the last one here on this thread) was humorous...almost sarcasm, methinks. His threat was commical. He's not killing any orcs. I believe that the plan is to have everyone distracted by the kids in the pit, though how that will cure the problem entirely, I'm not yet certain. Whatever the case, you're right. Things do need to be figured out with Rog and Undome's two characters. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

01-04-2008, 12:05 PM	#5
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Ah, but his death will mean something, and I won't kill him off unless this is so. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

01-05-2008, 10:03 PM	#6
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	I could do a post where Azhar runs over to tell everyone what's happened to the children, but before that would anyone like to do any further posts in response to Lindir on the release of the orcs and/or Rog? Or shall I just add a sentence or two at the beginning of my own post, mentioning that the orcs are now free? __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table. Last edited by Tevildo; 01-05-2008 at 10:09 PM.

01-05-2008, 10:15 PM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Hey Tevildo! I just put up a SAVE - I'll try to get something up a little later that leaves the Orcs freed and Rôg back with the fellowship. Does that sound alright? ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

01-06-2008, 12:16 AM	#8
Tevildo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Curled up on Melko's lap Posts: 425	Meow....meow! Sounds good to me. __________________ Now Tevildo was a mighty cat--the mightiest of all--and possessed of an evil spirit,...and he was in Melko's constant following; and that cat had all cats subject to him, and he and his subjects were the chasers and getters of meat for Melko's table.

01-03-2008, 08:51 PM	#10
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	I've put up a save for Aiwendil and Lindir, which I'll try to fill late tonight. Tolkien quite clearly states that, if an orc ever begged for mercy, the free peoples would be obliged to extend that mercy. Perhaps my two characters can be very clear about that. Yes, I would like Makdush to die at some point, but not now..... I can think of several ways that his death could contribute to the story line. We'll just see how things play out. My guess is that, even if the orcs and uruk agree to travel with the larger band, they will not be in total agreement on the wisdom of so doing. Not that ANY of the orcs would be %100 enthusiastic about travelling with a group of humans, but some may be more or less hostile. I've spoken with Regin about his characters. He sees no way he can participate in an RPG before the summer. I agreed to carry Ishkur, and I feel he is more central to the plot than Makdush. My personal preference is that the group decide, with some misgivings, not to execute the orcs. However, I also think that the decision to travel together would not come at this time. Surely, the fact that Gwella, of her own free will, offered to help the children would have some bearing on this. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

01-03-2008, 09:01 PM	#11
Undómë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 400	The exchange of the captive Orcs for Rôg would offer the humans at least one way of saving face about letting the perceived enemy go. Saving one of their fellowship would take precedence over letting him be killed, don't you think? Or it's at least a credible point to start in making that decision . . . or so it seems to me. __________________ Young she was and yet not so. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost, her white arms and clear face were flawless and smooth, and the light of stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night . . .

01-03-2008, 10:31 PM	#12
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Undómë - I could definitely live with that. I'll try to take that into account as I do my post. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

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