King of Kings - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dwarven Warrior · 01-04-2008, 11:25 AM

Nice Thread Groin. I think Elendil tops them all, even Dain II.

If it wasn't for him all of Arda would have fallen into darkness.

mormegil · 01-04-2008, 11:32 AM

How about Elessar? I think he did more on a grand scale and for more people than most could claim credit for and faced greater odds to get there than most.

Groin Redbeard · 01-04-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mormegil

How about Elessar? I think he did more on a grand scale and for more people than most could claim credit for

Elessar's deeds as a king, in my opinion, weren't as impressive as when he was a ranger, but he was a great king.

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and faced greater odds to get there than most.

Very true. Those that are well tried in life usaully make the best leaders.

Gwathagor · 01-04-2008, 05:00 PM

Golly, this is a hard thread. You can't very well compare between races and ages; each monarch needs to be considered within their own particular context. Seriously, I could just choose Illuvatar and trump all of you. So, perhaps a better idea would be to select, say, the greatest king of the third age, or the greatest king of the dwarves, or something like that.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-05-2008, 11:12 AM

Okay, I made my choice and it is based more on feeling, if someone told me: King of Kings in Middle-Earth? What would I reply, simply as that. It does not have much to do with the fact that the king would be the best ruler, the kindest, most powerful and most famous and victorious over most enemies and with most heroic deeds behind him or anything like that, but who is THE king for me, is the King of the Mountain, Thorin Oakenshield.

The Might · 01-05-2008, 11:29 AM

Well, why not go with something different and take Brytta.
Not often do you find a ruler that is generous to all, especially to the needy. I don't doubt that Aragorn or Eomer weren't like that as well, but I still think they were as kings a bit above the ordinary ones, while Brytta received the title Leofa, the Beloved, because of the attachment of all Rohirrims to him.
Now that's a king!

Elmo · 01-06-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Golly, this is a hard thread. You can't very well compare between races and ages; each monarch needs to be considered within their own particular context. Seriously, I could just choose Illuvatar and trump all of you. So, perhaps a better idea would be to select, say, the greatest king of the third age, or the greatest king of the dwarves, or something like that.

I could open a can of worms with that one...

Groin Redbeard · 01-07-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Golly, this is a hard thread. You can't very well compare between races and ages; each monarch needs to be considered within their own particular context. Seriously, I could just choose Illuvatar and trump all of you. So, perhaps a better idea would be to select, say, the greatest king of the third age, or the greatest king of the dwarves, or something like that.

I don't want to make this thread too narrow. After all, in my opinion, narrow minded threads are for narrow minded people.

Let's try and get back on the main subject. Next nomination please...

Bêthberry · 01-07-2008, 02:10 PM

I bet if you started a thread on who were the best queens you'd get a bit more discussion.

Gwathagor · 01-07-2008, 09:53 PM

Queens?

As far as kings go (and beyond the obvious choice of Aragorn), I really like Dain Ironfoot.

01-04-2008, 11:25 AM	#1
Dwarven Warrior Newly Deceased Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6	Nice Thread Groin. I think Elendil tops them all, even Dain II. If it wasn't for him all of Arda would have fallen into darkness. __________________ An angry dwarf is a dealy foe!

01-04-2008, 11:32 AM	#2
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	How about Elessar? I think he did more on a grand scale and for more people than most could claim credit for and faced greater odds to get there than most. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

01-04-2008, 05:00 PM	#4
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Golly, this is a hard thread. You can't very well compare between races and ages; each monarch needs to be considered within their own particular context. Seriously, I could just choose Illuvatar and trump all of you. So, perhaps a better idea would be to select, say, the greatest king of the third age, or the greatest king of the dwarves, or something like that. __________________ Stories and songs.

01-05-2008, 11:12 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Okay, I made my choice and it is based more on feeling, if someone told me: King of Kings in Middle-Earth? What would I reply, simply as that. It does not have much to do with the fact that the king would be the best ruler, the kindest, most powerful and most famous and victorious over most enemies and with most heroic deeds behind him or anything like that, but who is THE king for me, is the King of the Mountain, Thorin Oakenshield. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-05-2008, 11:29 AM	#6
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Well, why not go with something different and take Brytta. Not often do you find a ruler that is generous to all, especially to the needy. I don't doubt that Aragorn or Eomer weren't like that as well, but I still think they were as kings a bit above the ordinary ones, while Brytta received the title Leofa, the Beloved, because of the attachment of all Rohirrims to him. Now that's a king! __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

01-07-2008, 02:10 PM	#9
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	I bet if you started a thread on who were the best queens you'd get a bit more discussion. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-07-2008, 09:53 PM	#10
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Queens? As far as kings go (and beyond the obvious choice of Aragorn), I really like Dain Ironfoot. __________________ Stories and songs.

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