Lack of respect displayed by Gimli

[Sauron the White]

from Gwathagor

A gentle word turns away wrath, Sauron

Interesting that your observation is directed at only me. It seems to me that some here are intentionally attempting to provoke me. The calling names comes to mind.

Alatar writes

By the by, I'm glad that MatthewM has started this thread, as I overlooked another Jackson flaw (over five billions and counting) with the observation regarding Gimli and the Throne of Denethor II - one of over 26 Stewards to rule in the King's stead, and yet his seat is no better than a common stool. Oh, and hair colour? Forgot that one too. I figure that once I get the list to six billion, surely someone will then have the movies recalled. Until then I can only sit and scrawl...

And to think that it only took four years of time passing and probably 200 million viewers for anybody to notice it.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Sauron the White

Interesting that your observation is directed at only me. It seems to me that some here are intentionally attempting to provoke me. The calling names comes to mind.

But isn't that what you want...attention? I've given up presenting arguments a while ago, as they seem to get ignored for more provocative ideas. And to think that you and I, StW, two older gentlemen, are posting in an internet forum where someone posted the words, "calling names." Now I know how John Rhys-Davies must feel.

And to think that it only took four years of time passing and probably 200 million viewers for anybody to notice it.

With a list as long as Jackson's flubs (and the subsequent requisite Book quote to be cited), I hope to be able to discuss some percentage of them before the sun burns out .

MatthewM, take the compliment when given: you're one in 200 million!

[Sauron the White]

Alatar... have you been appointed as head of the impartial and objective jury?

[MatthewM]

Originally Posted by alatar

MatthewM, take the compliment when given: you're one in 200 million!

Indeed!

Glad to see the topic has gotten back on track. I do not have the time to read all the lengthy posts right now, but when I do I will be back!

[Meriadoc1961]

There was PLENTY of room for Gimli to have sat down elsewhere. It was not as if they were holding their meeting in a cramped room! And for Jackson to have had Gimli sitting in that chair at that time of mourning just further shows how he does not get Tolkien. The characters are everything. And Gimli sitting in that chair was out of the character that Tolkien had created. Gimli would not have done it.

Merry

[Sauron the White]

When a film like this is made, there are many scenes which end up on the cutting room floor because of time. Even in the extended edition they could not put in everything they wanted to. It is a little known fact, but there were several minutes filmed before we see that war council being held. Here is a secret transcript:

Aragorn: Okay, everybody present and accounted for?

Gandalf: Everybody except Faramir the new Steward.

Gimli: Hrumph, hrumph, hrumph.

Legolas: last time I see him he was playing footsie with a fellow patient in the Houses of Healing.

much snickering ensues.

Eomer: Hey, thats my sister you are chuckling about. Chill out.

Aragorn: Thats fine (experiencing much relief since Faramir has taken the problematic Eowyn off his hands) but he is represented by this letter.

Aragorn then reads the note from Faramir:

Sorry I can't drop in to help plan the invasion of Mordor. I would normally not miss it for the world but am nursing some old athletic. Enjoy the throne room, feel free to use it any want you want. Oh - and maybe Gimli could fill my chair for me?
ps. Ale is in the ice chest.
==========================

So there we have it.

Perhaps that scene will be added to the super duper six hour 25th Anniversary edition of ROTK?

[Sir Kohran]

I believe having John Rhys Davies sat in Denethor's throne was a reference to the movie's early days of production, when John Rhys Davies was indeed going to play Denethor.

[William Cloud Hicklin]

Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, born a commoner

Well, technically true insofar as she was not herself a peer of the realm- but she was an earl's daughter, not a grocer's! She was a 'commoner' in precisely the same sense as Diana Spencer.

[Sir Kohran]

Originally Posted by Sir Kohran

I believe having John Rhys Davies sat in Denethor's throne was a reference to the movie's early days of production, when John Rhys Davies was indeed going to play Denethor.

As usual my post is completely ignored