COMPASS & LOTR comparison - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sir Kohran · 02-10-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Maybe not. It's just won a Bafta.

A Bafta is just an award. It hardly equates to financial gains, which is what the companies are after. It will not increase the movie's gross by a single cent.

Sir Kohran · 02-11-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Kohran

A Bafta is just an award. It hardly equates to financial gains, which is what the companies are after. It will not increase the movie's gross by a single cent.

As usual, not a single reply

Sauron the White · 02-11-2008, 12:58 PM

Sir K - an award can help the box office of a film, Academy Awards have been known to do that especially if the film was an underperformer on its first release. I agree with you that the Bafta will mean nothing to this film.

Lalwendë · 02-25-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sauron the White

Sir K - an award can help the box office of a film, Academy Awards have been known to do that especially if the film was an underperformer on its first release. I agree with you that the Bafta will mean nothing to this film.

Alright, if British film awards are no more than scrap metal, how about an Oscar? 'Cause it won one.

Sauron the White · 02-25-2008, 10:43 AM

Lalwende... if I caused you to believe that the BAFTA's were scrap metal, that was not my intent. They are wonderful awards. I was simply agreeing with the statement made by another poster - Sir Kohran - that it would not add to the films box office receipts. Did it have that effect or not?

Regarding its Oscar win last night. I would add that a single win in a technical category will also have the same effect as the Bafta win. At this point, the only way it could have a box office impact would be for New Line to re-release it for more theatrical showings. Such a movie is not unheard of after the Oscars but is usually limited to a film which has won the Best Film honor and not one technical award.

But congrats to COMPASS for its Oscar. Thats one more than I have.

***Mister Underhill*** · 03-15-2008, 06:42 PM

An interesting development in the Compass saga was reported in the trades yesterday -- it seems that New Line sold not only foreign distribution for Compass, but also options on any sequels. In other words, Warners may not be able to reap significant foreign profits from sequels because of deals already in place, considerably complicating their decision on whether or not to continue the franchise.

Full article here. Stay tuned...

davem · 03-16-2008, 02:47 AM

I'm still left wondering why TGC flopped in the US - was it because US audiences decided it was a bad film (ie badly made, dull, confusing, etc), or because it was a 'good' film (ie well-made, interesting, exciting, etc) but with a 'bad' message - in other words, did the 'athiestic' element kill it in America? Or was it the marketing - one line of reasoning I've heard recently is that it was marketed by New Line as another LotR - big battles & cool beheadings 'n' stuff - & when audiences actually got a 12 year old girl her talking polar bear they went home disappointed & told their friends not to bother..

Whatever - one assumes that if Warner decides to go ahead with sequels the sensibilities of US audiences will play a smaller part in their calculations than they did for New line - it will probably be the same story for the sequels as for the original - poor performance in the US & big box office everywhere else.

03-16-2008, 02:47 AM	#7
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	I'm still left wondering why TGC flopped in the US - was it because US audiences decided it was a bad film (ie badly made, dull, confusing, etc), or because it was a 'good' film (ie well-made, interesting, exciting, etc) but with a 'bad' message - in other words, did the 'athiestic' element kill it in America? Or was it the marketing - one line of reasoning I've heard recently is that it was marketed by New Line as another LotR - big battles & cool beheadings 'n' stuff - & when audiences actually got a 12 year old girl her talking polar bear they went home disappointed & told their friends not to bother.. Whatever - one assumes that if Warner decides to go ahead with sequels the sensibilities of US audiences will play a smaller part in their calculations than they did for New line - it will probably be the same story for the sequels as for the original - poor performance in the US & big box office everywhere else. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects." Last edited by davem; 03-16-2008 at 02:52 AM.

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02-11-2008, 12:58 PM	#3
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	Sir K - an award can help the box office of a film, Academy Awards have been known to do that especially if the film was an underperformer on its first release. I agree with you that the Bafta will mean nothing to this film.

02-25-2008, 10:43 AM	#5
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	Lalwende... if I caused you to believe that the BAFTA's were scrap metal, that was not my intent. They are wonderful awards. I was simply agreeing with the statement made by another poster - Sir Kohran - that it would not add to the films box office receipts. Did it have that effect or not? Regarding its Oscar win last night. I would add that a single win in a technical category will also have the same effect as the Bafta win. At this point, the only way it could have a box office impact would be for New Line to re-release it for more theatrical showings. Such a movie is not unheard of after the Oscars but is usually limited to a film which has won the Best Film honor and not one technical award. But congrats to COMPASS for its Oscar. Thats one more than I have.

03-15-2008, 06:42 PM	#6
*Mister Underhill* Dread Horseman Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Behind you! Posts: 2,744	An interesting development in the Compass saga was reported in the trades yesterday -- it seems that New Line sold not only foreign distribution for Compass, but also options on any sequels. In other words, Warners may not be able to reap significant foreign profits from sequels because of deals already in place, considerably complicating their decision on whether or not to continue the franchise. Full article here. Stay tuned...