Is it possible: 1 Silmaril found: The Arkenstone - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eönwë · 03-23-2008, 05:18 PM

Also, he is not of the original children of Illuvatar- maybe the same standards don't apply.

William Cloud Hicklin · 03-24-2008, 02:18 PM

But Varda's curse extended not just to evil creatures, but mortal flesh. Beren was a particular exception, but no other Man (or Dwarf) could have handled a Silmaril unscathed.

Eönwë · 03-24-2008, 04:58 PM

She could have made them an exception, if it helped with the Plan.

Folwren · 03-24-2008, 08:24 PM

Interesting thought, but I've a vague feeling somehow that Bilbo would not have been permitted merely to bury it with Thoren if it had been a Silmaril.

Elmo · 03-25-2008, 08:33 AM

Perhaps that it would probably be better there, then to have people continually fighting about it.

Gwathagor · 04-14-2008, 11:37 PM

I think if it had been a Silmaril that Gandalf would have said something.

skip spence · 04-26-2008, 02:12 PM

I stumbled over this little note while browsing HOME XI and came to think of this thread.

HOME XI Comment on SS22 pg 108

Quote:

For Melian taught to them [The Dwarves Of Belegost] much wisdom (which also they were eager to get, and she gave to them also the great jewel which she alone had brought out of Valinor, work of Feanor ... for he gave many such to the folk of Lorien. A white gem it was that gathered the starlight and sent it forth in blue fires; end the Enfang priced it above a mountain of wealth.

Fits like a glove eh? The Arkenstone's Silmaril-like qualities are explained as it was a work of Feanor in Valinor. And how did the Dwarves find the Arkenstone? They dug it up from Lonely Mountain right. Probably left there by their ancient ancestors I'd say.

What do you think?

03-23-2008, 05:18 PM	#1
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Also, he is not of the original children of Illuvatar- maybe the same standards don't apply. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

03-24-2008, 02:18 PM	#2
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	But Varda's curse extended not just to evil creatures, but mortal flesh. Beren was a particular exception, but no other Man (or Dwarf) could have handled a Silmaril unscathed. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

03-24-2008, 04:58 PM	#3
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	She could have made them an exception, if it helped with the Plan. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

03-24-2008, 08:24 PM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Interesting thought, but I've a vague feeling somehow that Bilbo would not have been permitted merely to bury it with Thoren if it had been a Silmaril. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

03-25-2008, 08:33 AM	#5
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	Perhaps that it would probably be better there, then to have people continually fighting about it. __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

04-14-2008, 11:37 PM	#6
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I think if it had been a Silmaril that Gandalf would have said something. __________________ Stories and songs.

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