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Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-28-2008, 08:44 AM

Minohtar, who was his nephew; although he also didn't last long.

Nerwen · 03-28-2008, 08:51 PM

Yes. Your turn.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2008, 05:08 AM

Looks like we have either several minutes or half-days between the posts...

Okay, a thing that touches the matter, although just on the edge, but it does:

What was the best and fastest way from the Southern to the Northern Kingdom (while Arnor still existed)?

Nerwen · 03-29-2008, 06:13 AM

The North-South Road.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-29-2008, 06:17 AM

*beep* Wrong.

The Might · 03-29-2008, 06:54 PM

The road chose by Isildur, north next to the Vales of the Anduin, then crossing the High Pass.

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It was a long journey, but the only other way, west and then north to the road-meeting in Arnor, and then east to Imladris, was far longer. 6 As swift, maybe, for mounted men, but he had no horses fit for riding; 7 safer, maybe, in former days, but Sauron was vanquished, and the people of Vales had been his allies in victory. He had no fear, save for weather and weariness, but these men must endure whom need sends far abroad in Middle-earth. 8

Also check the notes for exact descriptions of the distance that would have been saved.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-30-2008, 05:09 AM

Very nice work, Miggy. But I have a little surprise for you: there was still one overall better and faster way which was used

Gordis · 03-31-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

What was the best and fastest way from the Southern to the Northern Kingdom (while Arnor still existed)?

By sea from Pelargir to the mouth of Gwathlo, then up the river to Tharbad and then by land (following the road later called the Greenway) via Bree to Fornost?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-31-2008, 09:27 AM

Very good, Gordis! You are correct.

It was indeed this route. For reference, look into the Unfinished Tales, I can't look it up now, but in the passage about the port of Lond Daer, this route is said to be the most used and the fastest way possible from Gondor to Arnor; even from Minas Tirith, seemingly. It looks very interesting, and this is why I picked it, but it is said to be like that.

Gordis, please give us a new question.

Gordis · 03-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Thank you, Legate.

OK. New question:

What answer did Déor, the King of Rohan, get from Isengard when he sent messengers to its gates - and who gave this answer?

Nerwen · 03-31-2008, 07:38 PM

His messengers were shot at by the Dunlendings and treacherous guards who had seized Isengard.

03-28-2008, 08:44 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Minohtar, who was his nephew; although he also didn't last long. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-28-2008, 08:51 PM	#2
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Yes. Your turn. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-29-2008, 05:08 AM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Looks like we have either several minutes or half-days between the posts... Okay, a thing that touches the matter, although just on the edge, but it does: What was the best and fastest way from the Southern to the Northern Kingdom (while Arnor still existed)? __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-29-2008, 06:13 AM	#4
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	The North-South Road. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

03-29-2008, 06:17 AM	#5
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	beep Wrong. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-30-2008, 05:09 AM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very nice work, Miggy. But I have a little surprise for you: there was still one overall better and faster way which was used __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-31-2008, 09:27 AM	#9
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very good, Gordis! You are correct. It was indeed this route. For reference, look into the Unfinished Tales, I can't look it up now, but in the passage about the port of Lond Daer, this route is said to be the most used and the fastest way possible from Gondor to Arnor; even from Minas Tirith, seemingly. It looks very interesting, and this is why I picked it, but it is said to be like that. Gordis, please give us a new question. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-31-2008, 12:33 PM	#10
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	Thank you, Legate. OK. New question: What answer did Déor, the King of Rohan, get from Isengard when he sent messengers to its gates - and who gave this answer?

03-31-2008, 07:38 PM	#11
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	His messengers were shot at by the Dunlendings and treacherous guards who had seized Isengard. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

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