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Raynor · 05-24-2008, 05:15 PM

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He was clever enough without it to defeat the Numenoreans with guile and without an army

Actually he did have the ring, and used it to a great extent in their corruption:

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Originally Posted by Letter #211

Sauron was first defeated by a 'miracle'... Though reduced to 'a spirit of hatred borne on a dark wind', I do not think one need boggle at this spirit carrying off the One Ring, upon which his power of dominating minds now largely depended.
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Sauron was, of course, 'confounded' by the disaster, and diminished (having expended enormous energy in the corruption of Numenor).

The Sixth Wizard · 05-25-2008, 10:59 PM

Morgoth is the creator of evil. Of course he isn't a villain. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't even know what a villain WAS.

Anyway, Sauron was, in effect, an utter failure. He created the Rings in the hope of dominating all races. The elves just hid themselves, the Men were corrupted but even a tiny portion (the Faithful) were able to resist him successfully and overthrow him, the Dwarves were simply too hardy for his power. Sauron in the Third Age is just trying to super glue together the antique vase he deliberately dropped. If the Gondorians weren't fading and the Elves weren't leaving over the sea, Sauron would be beaten all over again.

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05-25-2008, 10:59 PM	#2
The Sixth Wizard Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Stuck under a rock in Valinor with Ar-Pharazon. Posts: 480	Morgoth is the creator of evil. Of course he isn't a villain. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't even know what a villain WAS. Anyway, Sauron was, in effect, an utter failure. He created the Rings in the hope of dominating all races. The elves just hid themselves, the Men were corrupted but even a tiny portion (the Faithful) were able to resist him successfully and overthrow him, the Dwarves were simply too hardy for his power. Sauron in the Third Age is just trying to super glue together the antique vase he deliberately dropped. If the Gondorians weren't fading and the Elves weren't leaving over the sea, Sauron would be beaten all over again.