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So, in fact, we can say that from the moment Melkor started his dischord, there really was no other option for him than to come down to Arda and keep destroying the other Valar's work, likewise the other Valar had to come down and grow plants and raise mountains etc. If Melkor chose not to come down, there will be simply a "logical flaw" in the creation. There was direct causality between the Music and the reality of Arda itself. In this, the Music was really much more for the Valar than they "thought", also because it simply predetermined their actions (now if saying "pre"determined is correct, because it was in the so-called Timeless Halls, so you could actually say that the Music took the place at the same moment as when the corresponding events took place in the world, if you get what I mean). The only one then, who could intervene into the world behind the pre-determination of the Music, would be Eru himself, and then of course his Children (who again themselves are his intervention).
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I couldn't have said it better myself, Legate.
But I also have another thought. After re-thinking about the BoLT, it could be interpreted that Ungoliant was the direct action of Melkor's discord, a primeval spirit of darkness (And probably not Ainu, looking at the text), which would mean, that even if Melkor had left after the end of the creation of Arda, maybe Ungoliant would have drunk the light of the Two trees anyway, and evil would have continued.
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