Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion

[mark12_30]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Yike! Have I misinterpreted Mithrellas as too strong of spirit?

NO NO NO, she is more yours than mine!! THat's from an old outline written in the beginning of things (LIKE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO???) so of course it needs adjustment. I put it up more for the map value than the character stuff. THey are who they are, at this point.

In fact let me know where my outline needs Mithrellas-adjustment and I will edit accordingly so that we are all on the same (pro-Mithrellas) page. Nimrodel NEEDS a strong friend, don't weaken her now!

[littlemanpoet]

Whew! Don't worry about the outline. The story that is being finished up is what counts, not the old outline. Thanks for the reassurance.

By the way, I have not forgotten about Jorje. His role will yet be critical. You will see.

[littlemanpoet]

More dreams:

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=329
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=299
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=297
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=285
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=282
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=270
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=252

Pages 1 - 6 yet to go, and then I can start on the songs.

I have a plot contradiction to deal with. In posts 290ff, Tharonwe forces Raefindan to dream of himself as Imrazor and of Imrazor killing Mithrellas. Then in recent posts I have had Tharonwe not having realized Mithrellas was even there, caring for Nimrodel. How on earth do I resolve this? What was Tharonwe's reason for trying to confuse Raefindan regarding Mithrellas in the first place? Ack!

[mark12_30]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

I have a plot contradiction to deal with. In posts 290ff, Tharonwe forces Raefindan to dream of himself as Imrazor and of Imrazor killing Mithrellas. Then in recent posts I have had Tharonwe not having realized Mithrellas was even there, caring for Nimrodel. How on earth do I resolve this? What was Tharonwe's reason for trying to confuse Raefindan regarding Mithrellas in the first place? Ack!

Maybe it is the strength of Mithrellas herself, who caused Tharonwe to, ahem, forget.

The Valar caused Amroth to "forget" 1000 years of history, and waiting, a couple of times.

Tharonwe's been so busy torturing the important folks he forgot, or perhaps discounted, the quiet unassuming servants. If they're quiet and unassuming, they must be insignificant anyway. ...Just a thought or so. But I like the idea of Mithrellas hiding herself from Tharonwe, and "letting " him conveniently forget her.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by mark12_30

Maybe it is the strength of Mithrellas herself, who caused Tharonwe to, ahem, forget.

The Valar caused Amroth to "forget" 1000 years of history, and waiting, a couple of times.

Tharonwe's been so busy torturing the important folks he forgot, or perhaps discounted, the quiet unassuming servants. If they're quiet and unassuming, they must be insignificant anyway. ...Just a thought or so. But I like the idea of Mithrellas hiding herself from Tharonwe, and "letting " him conveniently forget her.

I think it was the part about Mithrellas also forgetting her name; that would to me signify a weakness of spirit that wouldn't jibe with the strength I've come to see in her. I realize that the forgetting had to do with the curse, which I suppose I could allow to stand as it is, but somehow I just can't see Mithrellas giving in completely to such a curse.

I do like your idea about Mithrellas causing Tharonwe to forget about her amid all his concern about Amroth, Erebemlin, and Roy Edwards and Indil, even - which would be perfect irony.

[mark12_30]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

I think it was the part about Mithrellas also forgetting her name; that would to me signify a weakness of spirit that wouldn't jibe with the strength I've come to see in her. I realize that the forgetting had to do with the curse, which I suppose I could allow to stand as it is, but somehow I just can't see Mithrellas giving in completely to such a curse.

Mithrellas finds her, after a long hard search. She waits on her, and takes care of her. For long years they dwell there, til Nimrodel forgets her name and takes the names given her by the dead. but Although the curse burdens, opresses and wearies her, Mithrellas brings food to Nimrodel and never abandons her. When Elessar breaks the curse and frees the Dead during the War of the Ring, Nimrodel and Mithrellas are freed as well.

Edited; better?

[alaklondewen]

Well, I was working on a post that involved a flash forward to her wandering in the mountains, but then I reread the outline and saw that Mithrellas leaves first, then she finds Amroths body, all before wandering. Not sure how to go about the next part, but I am working on it.

Any advice would be most appreciated as I'm working on the dream sequence stuff.

Thanks!

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by mark12_30

Edited; better?

Yup, thanks.

Alak, I really don't know what advice to give you. Just keep at it, and if there are any problems we'll give you gentle feeback. K?

[littlemanpoet]

Yet more dreams:

http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=209
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=202
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...&postcount=144
http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/sho...20&postcount=9

Don't think I missed any, but who can be sure? Next, the songs.

[mark12_30]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Whew! Don't worry about the outline. The story that is being finished up is what counts, not the old outline. Thanks for the reassurance.

By the way, I have not forgotten about Jorje. His role will yet be critical. You will see.

Er, well, I am not WORRIED about theoutline, but I would like to know which parts set off your alarms. Mithrellas is stronger than... what? Specifically?

Wanting to be on the same page, and all.