Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Macalaure · 06-02-2008, 09:03 AM

++real time

I only just noticed that the Downs clock is off (again...). Who knows whether it's going to be off by a constant time and the gap to real time won't change now and then (like last time). I'm for staying with real time and some lenience with posts coming in a minute late.

Durelin · 06-02-2008, 09:24 AM

Real time, please!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-02-2008, 10:04 AM

Indeed, real time. We can all check our own time on the computer clock and be sure it's okay, and have it clear and not make any mistake with missing the DL. It's also easier to look up the computer clock (I have never ever looked at the Downs' clock). The only thing is how the posts are marked, but that has no value. Because a) there is no need for us to care about the time at our posts, the only value we need is what time it currently is, and not what time was when X or Y posted, and we can look up the time that is on our computers; b) it's up to Nogrod, and not us, to make the mathematical operations necessary to determine which votes are past the DL or not. In the case of using Downs time, everyone of us will have to get adapted to the weird DL time; but in this case Nog simply draws a line and as a Mod, he has the veto option to say "your vote shall not pass" anyway. As long as I, you, he, she, it sees to posting in time according to my, your, his, her, its own computer time, then all of us will post in time, of course. Where's the problem?

So, shortly and simply

++real time

P.S. And oh, Sally, this is really brilliant. What a skilful girlfriend do I have

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-02-2008, 10:05 AM

++Downs Time

I prefer seeing exactly where posts fall in relation to the deadline, personally.

Thinlómien · 06-02-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

++Downs Time

I prefer seeing exactly where posts fall in relation to the deadline, personally.

That should not be a problem since there will be a time stamp on the deadline post as well.

++real time

Eönwë · 06-02-2008, 12:17 PM

++Real Time

Because you can see it changing all the time without needing to refresh the page. Also, sometimes Downs time is out by a few minutes.

Eönwë · 06-02-2008, 12:20 PM

Noggie, I love the way you wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

+ Eönwë, Rikae's unofficial helper-person

Made me laugh.

Lalaith · 06-02-2008, 12:21 PM

Downs time - what is real time, after all?

Nogrod · 06-02-2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

what is real time, after all?

Getting philosophical? Just don't give me a chance to start over that kind of issues here...

Volo · 06-02-2008, 12:47 PM

++Real time.

Nogrod · 06-02-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I'm for staying with real time and some lenience with posts coming in a minute late.

I'd be happy to embrace Mac's proposition. As it is possible that the 'Downs clock starts wandering here and there - as it has done earlier - and it may be 20 minutes or an hour off one day.

So as long it stays within a few minutes distance from the real time I'd say we basically follow the real time but will count in all votes given according to the 'Downs time (eg. 3-4 minutes after the real-time DL) as well.

How would that sound?

Eönwë: I'll add your age and occupation to the player list anyhow.

Nogrod · 06-02-2008, 12:03 PM

Remember to turn invisible!

Those of you who haven't done that before go to "user cp", then "edit options" and then "use invisible mode" and save the settings for the duration of the game.

Eönwë · 06-02-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Remember to turn invisible!

Those of you who haven't done that before go to "user cp", then "edit options" and then "use invisible mode" and save the settings for the duration of the game.

I was so excited about the game that I did that 3 days ago.

THE Ka · 06-02-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eönwë

I was so excited about the game that I did that 3 days ago.

I just left it from last ww...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So as long it stays within a few minutes distance from the real time I'd say we basically follow the real time but will count in all votes given according to the 'Downs time (eg. 3-4 minutes after the real-time DL) as well.

How would that sound?

Good by me.

I would say voting early would help, but I'm too much of a realist to believe that in any good WW people vote early in droves beyond the reason of simply not being around to read. Something always happens, there's always a maverick post that sends us off the edge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Downs time - what is real time, after all?

How we invest so much in the guise of reality m'friend...

~ Ka

Kitanna · 06-02-2008, 04:57 PM

I'm impartial to real or Downs time. But also I may or may not be able to make every voting deadline (I'll still vote everyday just maybe a few hours before deadline). I work until about twenty minutes before the deadline so if I do make it home by voting time (which I should) it'll be to cast a vote and make few comments. Because of work I can be on a large part of the beginning of days, but will be rather sparse the second half. Hopefully this isn't going to cause a huge problem in the game.

Nogrod · 06-02-2008, 05:31 PM

It is possible the 'Downs time wanders a long way from the real time. It has been deviating from the "real time" with more than an hour before so we can't count on it.

But all the votes posted within the 'Downs time will be counted as long as the difference stays in this three-four minutes like it is now. You are all intelligent people and understand when there is a difference of an hour between the 'Downs time and the time you actually live.

So the Deadline will be 11PM GMT 'Downs time for now but if the 'Downs time starts to go on it's own we'll be making a new decision. If this ruling is to be changed (the 'Downs time freaks out) I will inform you about the new ruling (making it strict real time) both here and in the game thread.

So untill further notice the 'Downs time will do. Although I still think the real time is better as it comes to you automatically, is seen all the time on your screen and is not dependent of your refreshing the page everytime just to check it...

I must admit that just like a few here have said I have never myself even checked the "'Downs time" as it is so uncomfortably at the end of the page and requires constant refreshing to be of any help.

PS. Another matter:
Just to make it clear. I have systematically referred to anyone unknown in this discussion thread as well as in the game thread by "she" from the very beginning. And I will continue doing so. There will neither be hints in the narrations. They are narrations that have a logic of their own.

satansaloser2005 · 06-02-2008, 08:16 PM

Sorry! Painful lack of internet all day, as I forgot to grab my laptop on the way to work. Fixed all the problems (except Morm's occupation....*shifty eyes*) and here's the new and improved link (which I'll also PM to Noggie in case he still wants it).

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ilytrees-4.jpg

Now, off to the game....!

06-02-2008, 10:04 AM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Indeed, real time. We can all check our own time on the computer clock and be sure it's okay, and have it clear and not make any mistake with missing the DL. It's also easier to look up the computer clock (I have never ever looked at the Downs' clock). The only thing is how the posts are marked, but that has no value. Because a) there is no need for us to care about the time at our posts, the only value we need is what time it currently is, and not what time was when X or Y posted, and we can look up the time that is on our computers; b) it's up to Nogrod, and not us, to make the mathematical operations necessary to determine which votes are past the DL or not. In the case of using Downs time, everyone of us will have to get adapted to the weird DL time; but in this case Nog simply draws a line and as a Mod, he has the veto option to say "your vote shall not pass" anyway. As long as I, you, he, she, it sees to posting in time according to my, your, his, her, its own computer time, then all of us will post in time, of course. Where's the problem? So, shortly and simply ++real time P.S. And oh, Sally, this is really brilliant. What a skilful girlfriend do I have __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-02-2008, 12:17 PM	#6
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	++Real Time Because you can see it changing all the time without needing to refresh the page. Also, sometimes Downs time is out by a few minutes. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-02-2008, 12:21 PM	#8
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Downs time - what is real time, after all? __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

06-02-2008, 12:47 PM	#10
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	++Real time. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

06-02-2008, 12:03 PM	#12
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Remember to turn invisible! Those of you who haven't done that before go to "user cp", then "edit options" and then "use invisible mode" and save the settings for the duration of the game. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-02-2008, 09:03 AM	#1
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	++real time I only just noticed that the Downs clock is off (again...). Who knows whether it's going to be off by a constant time and the gap to real time won't change now and then (like last time). I'm for staying with real time and some lenience with posts coming in a minute late.

06-02-2008, 09:24 AM	#2
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Real time, please!

06-02-2008, 10:05 AM	#4
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	++Downs Time I prefer seeing exactly where posts fall in relation to the deadline, personally.

06-02-2008, 04:57 PM	#15
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I'm impartial to real or Downs time. But also I may or may not be able to make every voting deadline (I'll still vote everyday just maybe a few hours before deadline). I work until about twenty minutes before the deadline so if I do make it home by voting time (which I should) it'll be to cast a vote and make few comments. Because of work I can be on a large part of the beginning of days, but will be rather sparse the second half. Hopefully this isn't going to cause a huge problem in the game. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

06-02-2008, 05:31 PM	#16
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	It is possible the 'Downs time wanders a long way from the real time. It has been deviating from the "real time" with more than an hour before so we can't count on it. But all the votes posted within the 'Downs time will be counted as long as the difference stays in this three-four minutes like it is now. You are all intelligent people and understand when there is a difference of an hour between the 'Downs time and the time you actually live. So the Deadline will be 11PM GMT 'Downs time for now but if the 'Downs time starts to go on it's own we'll be making a new decision. If this ruling is to be changed (the 'Downs time freaks out) I will inform you about the new ruling (making it strict real time) both here and in the game thread. So untill further notice the 'Downs time will do. Although I still think the real time is better as it comes to you automatically, is seen all the time on your screen and is not dependent of your refreshing the page everytime just to check it... I must admit that just like a few here have said I have never myself even checked the "'Downs time" as it is so uncomfortably at the end of the page and requires constant refreshing to be of any help. PS. Another matter: Just to make it clear. I have systematically referred to anyone unknown in this discussion thread as well as in the game thread by "she" from the very beginning. And I will continue doing so. There will neither be hints in the narrations. They are narrations that have a logic of their own. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-02-2008, 08:16 PM	#17
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Sorry! Painful lack of internet all day, as I forgot to grab my laptop on the way to work. Fixed all the problems (except Morm's occupation....shifty eyes) and here's the new and improved link (which I'll also PM to Noggie in case he still wants it). http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ilytrees-4.jpg Now, off to the game....! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

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