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Diamond18 · 06-07-2008, 03:47 PM

*sigh*

I didn't want to do this, but... I think that the confusion here is not good for the Good team, and since Rikae has seemingly got what she wanted, I may as well let the thick villagers in on it.

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

This is possibly surprising to some of you, considering my devil may care attitude, questions and missteps about the rules, seemingly "forgetting" that Day 1 had come till late in the Day. But I was trying to act like the least possible Wizard, to lessen suspicion of me. Pretending to be someone who hasn't paid close attention to "hard core" stuff, etc. Acting silly and stupid seemed the best way.

My role in the village is a joke on the fact that I do not, in real life, currently have a job.

Diamond + No Job + Internet At Home = All the Time in the World

I told Nogrod this. Now I'm telling you.

So, that's various reasons why you should believe me when I say that I am the Good Wizard.

Keep in mind that there are 5 evil people in this village. Rikae and Cailin are the ones I know about for sure.

Rikae's false reveal today caused me to post far more and far more seriously than I was intending. I'll bet you that she's gloating about this.

Well, I'll see you tomorrow, Mommy.

In the meantime, DON'T lynch my Hunter!

The Phantom is of far more use to me at Night.

Cailin is a Wolf, lynch her and be done with it.

This is all.

Brinniel · 06-07-2008, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

GAHH! *throws self against wall*

I don't know what to believe anymore. I just don't.

Kath · 06-07-2008, 03:50 PM

Oh ... flibble. Well, for my part I'm for trusting phantom here and lynching Cailin. Whoever it was that set out the list of possible outcomes for that, well, it pretty much agreed with what was going on in my head. In addition, the timing and nature of Rikae's revelation just made it seem suspicious even before I got as far as phantom's counter revelation. In addition, I thought I saw a clue from a possible GW earlier and that seemed to chime with what phantom said.

So, because I am unlikely to be here at the deadline:

++CAILIN

Kath · 06-07-2008, 03:53 PM

Ah! Di just revealed! Well, she's who I thought I'd seen the clue from earlier so at least that all works. Hmm, I do have a niggling feeling that this could be the most blinding bluff ever played, especially with Di and phantom masterminding it, but I decided to trust them and I'll stick by that decision.

Cailín · 06-07-2008, 03:55 PM

*chants* We got the Good Wizard, we got the Good Wizard.

Diamond18 · 06-07-2008, 03:59 PM

Nilp for Rikae
Lhuna for Sally
Izzy for Di
Rikae for Rikae
morm for Lommy
Diamond for Cailin
Legate for Cailin
Kath for Cailin
Lalaith for Cailin
Celuien for Cailin
Durelin for Cailin
Brinn for Cailin

Cailin 7
Rikae 2
Sally 1
Di 1
Lommy 1

Thinlómien · 06-07-2008, 03:51 PM

Alright. I trust phantom because I trust Di. If they were both baddies this would be just horrible. And on top of that Cailín's last post, being so unrelated to everything, clearly proves that she's a wolf.

But the question remains, why to lynch Cailín and not Rikae if they're both wolves?

edit: xed with everything since Di's revelation... and now I'm letting Greenie come here

Brinniel · 06-07-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lommy

But the question remains, why to lynch Cailín and not Rikae if they're both wolves?

Because Rikae could be the EW.

I'm more inclined to trust Di as well. But before I take action I need to think, as much as my brain already hurts. I just don't want to fall into a trap.

Brinniel · 06-07-2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cailin

*chants* We got the Good Wizard, we got the Good Wizard.

Well, that does it.

++Cailin

the phantom · 06-07-2008, 04:00 PM

Oh.... my.... God!

That was freakin amazing, Di!

I was about to post and say that I was completely confused, but after Cailin's little comment proving her guilt....

Was that what you were trying to accomplish, Di?

Isabellkya · 06-07-2008, 04:06 PM

I did see someone, I believe you Brin quote Cailin in something to the effect of "We got the GW, We got the GW;" as I was scrolling down to post.

From the few things I've caught - it almost seems to be a little too neat; however I'm sure reading the rest of the pages will make it messy.

Even though it may all be true, I don't think it bodes well for the rest of the village.

X'd with Rikae.

Rikae · 06-07-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond18

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

You're right - I'm not the GW. I was just having a bit of fun.

That doesn't mean you are, though. The apple doesn't fall very far from the tree....

Roa_Aoife · 06-07-2008, 04:55 PM

Hey, I voted for legate, don't forget!

Nogrod · 06-07-2008, 05:01 PM

Day3 has ended.

Cailín is dead.

She is/was a wererwolf.

Narration coming in a moment... as soon as I have time to check the thread & write other than Herbert-parts.

Wizards and others to whom it concerns feel free to start Nightly activities.

Others: good night, sleep tight!

Celuien · 06-07-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond18

*sigh*

I didn't want to do this, but... I think that the confusion here is not good for the Good team, and since Rikae has seemingly got what she wanted, I may as well let the thick villagers in on it.

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

*sigh*

And another reveal.

I was sort of afraid of that when you were talking about scrying strategy to reduce wolf numbers earlier...

Quote:

Cailin is a Wolf, lynch her and be done with it.

This is all.

Ok.

++ Cailín

Durelin · 06-07-2008, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Di

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

Aw dang, I thought this might be coming after wondering for a moment why you were as 100% sure as phantom...sorry, Di.

Now, Di's reveal makes sense.

++Cailin

Now you're really my hero.

Edit: Crossed with everyone after Legate.

Isabellkya · 06-07-2008, 03:57 PM

o.O

Sheeesh, I continue reading from when I posted last, Rikae claims to be the GW, and here I see a quote of Di doing the same.. with something about phantom being a wolf?

Brinniel · 06-07-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

Sheeesh, I continue reading from when I posted last, Rikae claims to be the GW, and here I see a quote of Di doing the same.. with something about phantom being a wolf?

Di's the GW and tp's her hunter. Cailin and Rikae are indeed evil as Cailin just revealed her more sinister self.

Diamond18 · 06-07-2008, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Di's the GW and tp's her hunter. Cailin and Rikae are indeed evil as Cailin just revealed her more sinister self.

Cailin. Eomer. They grow more alike every day.

I'm glad that the Village is united, now. A little disappointed I had to reveal. But, a Wizard's got to do what a Wizard's got to do. The confusion was becoming maddening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter

I was about to post and say that I was completely confused, but after Cailin's little comment proving her guilt....

Was that what you were trying to accomplish, Di?

Actually that was a bonus. I thought she might still deny it.

At any rate, it certainly proves the theory that Rikae's aim in all this was flush me out. And since her smug comment earlier indicated she had, I figured the village should be let in on it as well. This way I at least spare you for a kill/scry tonight, instead of having you die today.

Gwathagor · 06-07-2008, 04:11 PM

Well, I reckon it's time for me to stop worrying about how I'm going to vote and go watch today's Doctor Who episode.

I'm sorry you had to reveal, Diamond18. Looks like it did the trick though and cleared things up.

Lalaith · 06-07-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

today's Doctor Who episode.

Oh you are in for such a treat. Sorry, off task, but I had to say that.

Thinlómien · 06-07-2008, 04:19 PM

Diamond, I have a request for you, please hear me out. I know you suspect me. I know you want to scry me and make one wolf swap sides. PLEASE DO NOT SCRY ME. Seer dream me, lynch me toMorrow, whatever - I don't care. But do not scry me. In that case you only get a ranger everybody guesses you've scried ie made known or at least very easily guessable innocent and the wolves kill your ranger the Night after that. De-gift a real wolf, search for the evil wizard or make a useful ranger, whatever you wish, but do not waste your scry on making a totally useless ranger out of me.

edit: xed with sally and Lalaith

satansaloser2005 · 06-07-2008, 04:17 PM

++Cailin

Like I said, there was NO way Rikae was telling the truth. Well, we lose our lovely Di tomorrow in Wizard duel most likely, but we can get a lot from toDay. People who were trying to make Rikae's nonsense plausible for instance. Hmmmm....who would that be? *cough* Lommie, Lallie, Roa, etc. *cough* Who said that?

Oh, and Legate, I've believed you this whole time, sweetheart. Mwah!

Sorry, I just love it when I'm right. Obviously, Phantom kind of started it all but I've thought they were both evil all game. Yay!

Posting now....probably x'd. (last post is Gwath's post to Di)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-07-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oh, and Legate, I've believed you this whole time, sweetheart. Mwah!

*kisses sally*

Whatever's going to happen, love, I will not forget this joyful moment... and I always wanted to believe you, too...

satansaloser2005 · 06-08-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien
Since when has sally been a known innocent? Or are you just trying to fill my daughter's head with romantic nonsense, young man?

I am not saying that, my possible-future-mother-in-law... as you see I use conditional. But this is a joyful moment. And now stop that, don't you see we want to have a beautiful time here with your daughter...

I noticed this before I went to bed last night, my dear. We? What's this WE business? You best explain yourself. (And of course I mean this in a wolf sense not a jealous way, because honestly who'd cheat on me?

)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-08-2008, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I noticed this before I went to bed last night, my dear. We? What's this WE business? You best explain yourself. (And of course I mean this in a wolf sense not a jealous way, because honestly who'd cheat on me?

)

Hey, I think I do not understand you. The thing you quoted cannot be explained in any other way than that I am speaking of you and me, my dear? That's it. Or sorry, I did not understand the question probably.

satansaloser2005 · 06-08-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Hey, I think I do not understand you. The thing you quoted cannot be explained in any other way than that I am speaking of you and me, my dear? That's it. Or sorry, I did not understand the question probably.

You said WE want to have fun with your daughter. Legate, you got some splaining to do.... *could have been a typo, I'd just like to know one way or another*

Voting records coming up by the way....

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Every cell in me urges me not to follow phantom's directions. I'm not always bad at taking orders, but I'm bad at taking orders from haughty people who behave all too self-consciously and annoy me and whom I'm not sure if I can trust. *le sigh* I mean, I think I can trust tp but I'm not sure, this game is looking more and more complicated...

On the other hand, I was planning to do such a summary toDay anyway, just to force myself to think about some people I have so stupidly let fly under my radar.

And I can't think of any harm that doing it would bring. So, phantom, know this: when (if?) I do the summary, I'm doing it because I planned to do so, not because you requested it. Period.

I also recommed others not to be as rebellious-spirited as I am. I think it's a very good idea to make everybody make a summary... we must just swallow our pride and let tp boss us around... (I can see how he enjoys the situation...)

Ha! That feeling sounds familiar

Anyway, I am probably going to do some list too, but not now. Later. When I am fresh.

I can't say that Lommy's posts early toDay carry on with the generally rather unpleasant view on her, but whatever. Although I know others were not for example as definitely convinced about Rikae or such as I was (because I knew she was lying), I chose to trust phantom once and I still keep with it - at least for now. Then, if he were to be something sinister, I am sure it would show sooner or later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

If you have directions from the GW, hand 'em over. Stop playing games with us. I notice that that's exactly what Rikae did yesterday. We know that Diamond trusted you, but we don't know that she knew your role. You could very well be the EW and Rikae is your wolf. I wouldn't put that kind of move past either of you. You can say that Di was trying to help you because she knew you, but all we have is your word on that. She may have simply been duped.

Hmm, I think it's too complicated a view. While it is "safe", I think still, too complicated. Even I don't come up with theories like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

You said WE want to have fun with your daughter. Legate, you got some splaining to do.... *could have been a typo, I'd just like to know one way or another*

I said we are trying to have nice time with your daughter. By "we" I meant you and me. You+me=we. Clear, eh?

Gwathagor · 06-07-2008, 04:00 PM

Well, I'll be...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diamond18

Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am.

Ha ha ha ha ha! Madness!

++++++++++++++++++CAILIN

Die die die die die!

06-07-2008, 03:47 PM	#1
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	sigh I didn't want to do this, but... I think that the confusion here is not good for the Good team, and since Rikae has seemingly got what she wanted, I may as well let the thick villagers in on it. Rikae's not the Good Wizard. I am. This is possibly surprising to some of you, considering my devil may care attitude, questions and missteps about the rules, seemingly "forgetting" that Day 1 had come till late in the Day. But I was trying to act like the least possible Wizard, to lessen suspicion of me. Pretending to be someone who hasn't paid close attention to "hard core" stuff, etc. Acting silly and stupid seemed the best way. My role in the village is a joke on the fact that I do not, in real life, currently have a job. Diamond + No Job + Internet At Home = All the Time in the World I told Nogrod this. Now I'm telling you. So, that's various reasons why you should believe me when I say that I am the Good Wizard. Keep in mind that there are 5 evil people in this village. Rikae and Cailin are the ones I know about for sure. Rikae's false reveal today caused me to post far more and far more seriously than I was intending. I'll bet you that she's gloating about this. Well, I'll see you tomorrow, Mommy. In the meantime, DON'T lynch my Hunter! The Phantom is of far more use to me at Night. Cailin is a Wolf, lynch her and be done with it. This is all. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

06-07-2008, 03:50 PM	#3
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Oh ... flibble. Well, for my part I'm for trusting phantom here and lynching Cailin. Whoever it was that set out the list of possible outcomes for that, well, it pretty much agreed with what was going on in my head. In addition, the timing and nature of Rikae's revelation just made it seem suspicious even before I got as far as phantom's counter revelation. In addition, I thought I saw a clue from a possible GW earlier and that seemed to chime with what phantom said. So, because I am unlikely to be here at the deadline: ++CAILIN __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

06-07-2008, 03:53 PM	#4
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Ah! Di just revealed! Well, she's who I thought I'd seen the clue from earlier so at least that all works. Hmm, I do have a niggling feeling that this could be the most blinding bluff ever played, especially with Di and phantom masterminding it, but I decided to trust them and I'll stick by that decision. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

06-07-2008, 03:59 PM	#6
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Nilp for Rikae Lhuna for Sally Izzy for Di Rikae for Rikae morm for Lommy Diamond for Cailin Legate for Cailin Kath for Cailin Lalaith for Cailin Celuien for Cailin Durelin for Cailin Brinn for Cailin Cailin 7 Rikae 2 Sally 1 Di 1 Lommy 1 __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

06-07-2008, 03:51 PM	#7
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Alright. I trust phantom because I trust Di. If they were both baddies this would be just horrible. And on top of that Cailín's last post, being so unrelated to everything, clearly proves that she's a wolf. But the question remains, why to lynch Cailín and not Rikae if they're both wolves? edit: xed with everything since Di's revelation... and now I'm letting Greenie come here __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-07-2008, 03:55 PM	#5
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	chants We got the Good Wizard, we got the Good Wizard.

06-07-2008, 04:00 PM	#10
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Oh.... my.... God! That was freakin amazing, Di! I was about to post and say that I was completely confused, but after Cailin's little comment proving her guilt.... Was that what you were trying to accomplish, Di? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-07-2008, 04:06 PM	#11
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I did see someone, I believe you Brin quote Cailin in something to the effect of "We got the GW, We got the GW;" as I was scrolling down to post. From the few things I've caught - it almost seems to be a little too neat; however I'm sure reading the rest of the pages will make it messy. Even though it may all be true, I don't think it bodes well for the rest of the village. X'd with Rikae. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-07-2008, 04:55 PM	#13
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Hey, I voted for legate, don't forget! __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

06-07-2008, 05:01 PM	#14
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Day3 has ended. Cailín is dead. She is/was a wererwolf. Narration coming in a moment... as soon as I have time to check the thread & write other than Herbert-parts. Wizards and others to whom it concerns feel free to start Nightly activities. Others: good night, sleep tight! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-07-2008, 03:57 PM	#17
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	o.O Sheeesh, I continue reading from when I posted last, Rikae claims to be the GW, and here I see a quote of Di doing the same.. with something about phantom being a wolf? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-07-2008, 04:11 PM	#20
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Well, I reckon it's time for me to stop worrying about how I'm going to vote and go watch today's Doctor Who episode. I'm sorry you had to reveal, Diamond18. Looks like it did the trick though and cleared things up. __________________ Stories and songs.

06-07-2008, 04:19 PM	#22
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Diamond, I have a request for you, please hear me out. I know you suspect me. I know you want to scry me and make one wolf swap sides. PLEASE DO NOT SCRY ME. Seer dream me, lynch me toMorrow, whatever - I don't care. But do not scry me. In that case you only get a ranger everybody guesses you've scried ie made known or at least very easily guessable innocent and the wolves kill your ranger the Night after that. De-gift a real wolf, search for the evil wizard or make a useful ranger, whatever you wish, but do not waste your scry on making a totally useless ranger out of me. edit: xed with sally and Lalaith __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-07-2008, 04:17 PM	#23
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I Told Thee So I Told Thee So!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ++Cailin Like I said, there was NO way Rikae was telling the truth. Well, we lose our lovely Di tomorrow in Wizard duel most likely, but we can get a lot from toDay. People who were trying to make Rikae's nonsense plausible for instance. Hmmmm....who would that be? cough Lommie, Lallie, Roa, etc. cough Who said that? Oh, and Legate, I've believed you this whole time, sweetheart. Mwah! Sorry, I just love it when I'm right. Obviously, Phantom kind of started it all but I've thought they were both evil all game. Yay! Posting now....probably x'd. (last post is Gwath's post to Di) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

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