Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II

[the phantom]

All right, after we lynch Nilp here's what we'll have.

Good- Me and Ranger
Evil- Rikae and 2 WWs
Ordos- 14

After tonight I'd like to have a Seer and Ranger to help you out. If the Night goes well then for sure I'm challenging tomorrow.

If the night goes poorly Rikae can't challenge me because I have not been proven as the GW (haven't been lynched, scried, or attacked by WWs). If Rikae wants to earn the right to challenge me she will have to waste a scry on me, for I will be using my Ranger to protect me tonight. If the Ranger is guarding me then a WW attack cannot reveal my identity. So, unless she scries, I am ensured two chances to get things right at night.

If I create a Seer and she scries my Ranger, I'll still challenge.

If I unWolf someone and she scries my Ranger, I'll challenge.

If I create a Seer and she kills my Ranger, I'll challenge.

If we scry the same person- I'm not sure.

Maybe I'll challenge tomorrow no matter what. This village is seriously taking up too much of my free time. I haven't been sleeping enough and I'm coming down sick now and could really use some rest. Hm, so maybe I won't bother protecting myself from the WW kill. Her challenging me tomorrow- I'd probably welcome it.

Anyway, those are the various things that could occur tonight. For right now just make sure Nilp gets lynched. That way the WWs won't have any shot at getting two kills tonight.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If I create a Seer and she scries my Ranger, I'll still challenge.

If I unWolf someone and she scries my Ranger, I'll challenge.

If I create a Seer and she kills my Ranger, I'll challenge.

If we scry the same person- I'm not sure.

And what if I kill your seer for a third time, eh?

[Rikae]

Guess what, Phantom? You just lynched my trusted second-in-command, who knows everything I know. If you had scried him instead, you would have won.

[the phantom]

If you had scried him instead, you would have won.

It would be kind of boring to win this early. These villagers want to have some WW fun before the end!

And what if I kill your seer for a third time, eh?

Then it would be the third time you had unintentionally killed my Seer.

Volo- you knew nothing.

Di- if you had thought she was the Seer you would've scried her rather than killed her.

And I chose not to protect either one, cause I knew I'd get to make another one the next night.

And they both got their dreams in before they died. Haven't missed a nightly dream yet. And the dreams have been rather useful, don't you think?

So really, it wasn't a big deal Mommy.

Originally Posted by Eonwe

Then there's the Rikae problem. Is she really the EW?

Yes.

I've known it for quite a while.

[Brinniel]

Yes Lommy, but just because a lot of people suspect you, it doesn't mean there isn't a good reason behind it. You may see it as "weak grounds," but others don't. And anyways, I have a good reason to comment because the last time someone questioned me for suspecting them, they turned out to be a wolf...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Yes Lommy, but just because a lot of people suspect you, it doesn't mean there isn't a good reason behind it. You may see it as "weak grounds," but others don't. And anyways, I have a good reason to comment because the last time someone questioned me for suspecting them, they turned out to be a wolf...

If there's a good reason, please point it out to me. I can't see such.

Besides, many of you aren't giving almost any grounds at all. (I give you the credit that you have at least raised a few actual points against me.) How on earth am I supposed to prove my innocence if no one gives a reason why they suspect me, or if their reasons are silly or irrational?

I just can't see why you all suspect me. Some of you say that there's a different feel to me and that's all you say - but what can I reply to that? It is the thing that makes me most baffled, because there should be no different feel to me as I have not changed my playing style and I'm not a wolf. So, do some of you have an over-active imagination, do you misjudge me or are you wolves (or innocents ) surfing on the current tide of suspicion in order to look better? That's what I'm trying to find out...

And as for questioning someone's suspicion for oneself should be a basic human right, not a mark of wolvish behaviour....

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

If there's a good reason, please point it out to me. I can't see such.

Besides, many of you aren't giving almost any grounds at all. (I give you the credit that you have at least raised a few actual points against me.) How on earth am I supposed to prove my innocence if no one gives a reason why they suspect me, or if their reasons are silly or irrational?

I just can't see why you all suspect me. Some of you say that there's a different feel to me and that's all you say - but what can I reply to that? It is the thing that makes me most baffled, because there should be no different feel to me as I have not changed my playing style and I'm not a wolf. So, do some of you have an over-active imagination, do you misjudge me or are you wolves (or innocents ) surfing on the current tide of suspicion in order to look better? That's what I'm trying to find out...

And as for questioning someone's suspicion for oneself should be a basic human right, not a mark of wolvish behaviour....

Lommy my concern is your use of punctuation...definately wolfish, not to mention you smiley or not so smiley faces.

Seriously though, part of the reason I suspect you is your insatiable desire to continually 'prove' your innocence. I've played many games with you and often times find you suspicious but this time I find you suspicious for different reasons. You do have a different vibe to you almost as if you changed roles...

[Lalaith]

Ok, here's why I think Lommy is a wolf.

There are players I have difficulty getting a 'feel' for. Kath, for example, and Durelin (although having said that I did spot wolf-Durelin last time I played).
But I do think I have a handle on Lommy, as it were, and every time I've played with Lommy before I've trusted her, and every time she's been innocent. (I think!)

But this time she feels all wrong. Her participation in the debate yesterday for example: the confusion seemed fabricated, as did the refusing to acknowledge that Rikae might be the EW.
Her last post "don't scry me please" yesterday sounded like a bid to make the GW think she (Lommy) was the EW rather than Rikae.
And the whole Aganzir/Lommy routine reminded me of Roa/Valier in the last DW.

There's some hard evidence there but it's mostly instinct and thus not as convincing to the rest of you as it could be. And of course I could be quite wrong. But there you have it.

[Lalaith]

Oi! You wizards! Play nice!

[Rikae]

Then it would be the third time you had unintentionally killed my Seer.

Hardly, I knew Di was the seer, I scried for a new wolf. ToNight I would love to kill your new seer and force you to leave the village seerless or give me another night!

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by the phantom

It would be kind of boring to win this early. These villagers want to have some WW fun before the end!

You edited this - tsk tsk!

[Rikae]

Actually, I agree with you wholeheartedly on being tired of this game. It's ceased to be fun for me (actually, it ceased to be fun as soon as it started, since I knew perfectly well I would be among the first dreamt/scried no matter what I did). I would concede, or drop out, if I could. I believe you've pretty much seen to it that it hasn't been fun for anyone else toDay, either.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Actually, I agree with you wholeheartedly on being tired of this game. It's ceased to be fun for me (actually, it ceased to be fun as soon as it started, since I knew perfectly well I would be among the first dreamt/scried no matter what I did). I would concede, or drop out, if I could. I believe you've pretty much seen to it that it hasn't been fun for anyone else toDay, either.

I'm rather enjoying it so I feel sorry you aren't.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I knew perfectly well I would be among the first dreamt/scried no matter what I did

Are you saying you're not the EW now?

edit: x-ed with 2x morm