Microphones in Middle-earth...the BBC Lord of the Rings - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Brian Sibley · 06-21-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ArathornJax

I did have one question that came to me today. At the council of Rivendell Gimli takes the role of his father Gloin at the council. However, he states that the messanger from Sauron came to his father and not to Dain. I found this interesting as I would thought that any messanger or ambassador from Sauron would come to Dain as he is the King Under the Mountain, not Gloin. Gloin, a member of the royal household and more than likely a member of the royal council would have been present, but why come to Gloin?

Not sure I know the answer to this... Michael Bakewell wrote that episode and I can't recall any discussions other than that Gloin should be Gimli. My guess - but that's all it is - would be that Michael a) wanted to, at least, mention Gloin and b) thought it simpler than setting up the concept of the King Under the Mountain in a 30-minute episode already stuffed with new names and facts. Sorry to be so vague, but over a quarter of a century later, it's hard to be anything else!!

Good luck with the procedure...

Elmo · 11-19-2008, 11:44 AM

In my opinion this is the greatest and most beautiful part of the bbc production Gil-galad was an Elven King...

Mithalwen · 11-20-2008, 06:58 AM

I love that too and combined with hearing Brian on the radio the otherday, your post ahs reminded me it is high time we get this going again. My bad

I have had "the battle of the Pellennor fields" in the car (you know what I mean!) for months now and it is amazing that it doesn't lose it's impact. I keep thinking how good Theoden, Eomer and Eowyn are, wince every time Frodo takes his frustration out on Sam and feel slightly sick at teh death of the fell beast. Maybe it is the better speakers in the car but I never realised just how squelchy it was.

Sauronbaggins · 11-28-2008, 03:15 PM

Hello there fellow Tolkienites
This is my first post on this humble board, after having followed your discussions for some time.
As a fan of the radio series and Tolkien overall, i have a few questions for the board and Brian
My first question is to Brian, what would you say was the best review you read that pertained to the radio series, and what was the worst, my personal favourite being the "What's Sibleys next crime, drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa?"
One other question, do you think the radio series is faithful to the true psychological horror of Gollum. I think the film succeeds in showing how horrific it must be to be Gollum, a skinny miserable psychotic schizophrenic drug addict, who's good side is continually shunned by the evil side of his nature, but who ultimately becomes the unwitting saviour of Middle-earth and succeeds where Frodo fails, what do you guys think ?

davem · 04-11-2009, 10:05 AM

Well, I return to this thread not to continue it - sadly personal commitments intervened & I wasn't able to continue running things & no-one else was able to take over. I'm back now just to point out that the latest issue of SFX magazine http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=latest_issue has a very nice four-page spread on the series with at least one pic I haven't seen previously, showing the actors playing Merry, Legolas, Treebeard, Gimli & (I think) Pippin. Very positive review, but I'm not sure it includes any new info (well not new to readers of this thread & Brian's brilliant article on his site. Still, for fans of the series its a nice memento.

Lalwendë · 04-11-2009, 02:47 PM

It also has a picture of Ian Holm looking younger and uncannily like Martin Freeman, which is most interesting seeing as I'm still lobbying for him to do Bilbo in The Hobbit, when they get around to casting the film.

Oh, and a review of a book which may infuriate fellow haters of Tolkien-rip-off-writers

Mithalwen · 04-17-2009, 10:42 AM

Ah well I have listerned ot Mount Doom about 5 times this week so.... I should really do something about this ...

11-19-2008, 11:44 AM	#2
Elmo Pittodrie Poltergeist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: trying to find that warm and winding lane again Posts: 633	In my opinion this is the greatest and most beautiful part of the bbc production Gil-galad was an Elven King... __________________ As Beren looked into her eyes within the shadows of her hair, The trembling starlight of the skies he saw there mirrored shimmering.

11-20-2008, 06:58 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I love that too and combined with hearing Brian on the radio the otherday, your post ahs reminded me it is high time we get this going again. My bad I have had "the battle of the Pellennor fields" in the car (you know what I mean!) for months now and it is amazing that it doesn't lose it's impact. I keep thinking how good Theoden, Eomer and Eowyn are, wince every time Frodo takes his frustration out on Sam and feel slightly sick at teh death of the fell beast. Maybe it is the better speakers in the car but I never realised just how squelchy it was. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-28-2008, 03:15 PM	#4
Sauronbaggins Newly Deceased Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	LOTR - The Radio Series Hello there fellow Tolkienites This is my first post on this humble board, after having followed your discussions for some time. As a fan of the radio series and Tolkien overall, i have a few questions for the board and Brian My first question is to Brian, what would you say was the best review you read that pertained to the radio series, and what was the worst, my personal favourite being the "What's Sibleys next crime, drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa?" One other question, do you think the radio series is faithful to the true psychological horror of Gollum. I think the film succeeds in showing how horrific it must be to be Gollum, a skinny miserable psychotic schizophrenic drug addict, who's good side is continually shunned by the evil side of his nature, but who ultimately becomes the unwitting saviour of Middle-earth and succeeds where Frodo fails, what do you guys think ?

04-11-2009, 10:05 AM	#5
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Well, I return to this thread not to continue it - sadly personal commitments intervened & I wasn't able to continue running things & no-one else was able to take over. I'm back now just to point out that the latest issue of SFX magazine http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=latest_issue has a very nice four-page spread on the series with at least one pic I haven't seen previously, showing the actors playing Merry, Legolas, Treebeard, Gimli & (I think) Pippin. Very positive review, but I'm not sure it includes any new info (well not new to readers of this thread & Brian's brilliant article on his site. Still, for fans of the series its a nice memento. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

04-11-2009, 02:47 PM	#6
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	It also has a picture of Ian Holm looking younger and uncannily like Martin Freeman, which is most interesting seeing as I'm still lobbying for him to do Bilbo in The Hobbit, when they get around to casting the film. Oh, and a review of a book which may infuriate fellow haters of Tolkien-rip-off-writers __________________ Gordon's alive!

04-17-2009, 10:42 AM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Ah well I have listerned ot Mount Doom about 5 times this week so.... I should really do something about this ... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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