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Old 07-12-2008, 05:20 PM   #1
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You misunderstand me, Shasta. I say the sally kill does NOT incriminate you, but I half-expect a clever person to make me look silly by proving how it does.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:22 PM   #2
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You misunderstand me, Shasta. I say the sally kill does NOT incriminate you, but I half-expect a clever person to make me look silly by proving how it does.
Oh, I see. Thank you for clearing that up, because I did misunderstand you.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:29 PM   #3
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Rikae is right in that the last minutes of yesterDay were just completely insane. We should read them once again. I'll go and do it myself but I'd encourage others to do the same. Many eyes see better than just a few.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:32 PM   #4
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Sure, you still could have been a wolf in that case, but you wouldn't be any more likely because of your vote. The vote you *did* make, however, was one that almost saved Mith.
Yes, but it also almost doomed Form, and like I say, Mith would have been lynched soon in any case. How do you know that I didn't almost doom a Formwolf at the same time I almost saved a Mithwolf?
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:34 PM   #5
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Well, for one, it didn't matter WHO I voted yesterday, someone was going to suspect me.
That's the way a wolf thinks...
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By then I thought Mith and Form were both wolves, and figured Mith was obvious enough to everyone, but Form had only garnered suspicion from a few.
So? If you had an obvious wolf in your head and saw others were also suspected you decided not to lynch the clear wolf and decided to try someone you had only started to suspect at the last minutes? Quite an interesting way to behave for an innocent...

I'm sorry Shasta but I'm afraid I am growing more and more confident on your lupinity. But let's read and think first - and there's the other one to catch as well.

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Old 07-12-2008, 05:38 PM   #6
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That's the way a wolf thinks...

So? If you had an obvious wolf in your head and saw others were also suspected you decided not to lynch the clear wolf and decided to try someone you had only started to suspect at the last minutes? Quite an interesting way to behave for an innocent...

I'm sorry Shasta but I'm afraid I am growing more and more confident on your lupinity. But let's read and think first - and there's the other one to catch as well.

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It's also true, tell me it's not.

And who's to say there'd be another chance to lynch Form today? I saw a chance to lynch someone I suspected of wolfery. I don't see what's so suspicious about that.
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:42 PM   #7
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I don't see what's so suspicious about that.
That's what I'm going to try and find out Shasta - whether it is as suspicious as I now feel it is. It will take a moment to go through yesterDay as I'm quite slow in this but I'll give it a look next.
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:00 PM   #8
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Shasta yesterDay...

Shasta:
#353
Opens with just ”Lovely” – after we had lost our seer.

#355
Durelin analysis – followed by a suggestion: Nogrod might be dreamt of hacker & Kitanna was a dreamt of innocent.

#358
Complains my use of the term “overdoing”.

#363, #365
Row with Eomer continues from yesterday.

#403
Complains people are thinking he’s pushing his interpretation of Dury’s dream on Kitanna on them.

#406
Explains why he posts a lot early (convenient timezones). Corrects Eönwë’s vote list.

#410
Gets ready to back off from “Dury dreamt of Kitanna” but reminds that doesn’t refute his “Dury dreamt of Nogrod”. Asks whether someone has refuted that “as well” (I see some irony here…).

#418
Comments on Eönwë’s suspicion list as being unimaginative…

#444 (twenty one minutes before the deadline)
“If it helps, Form, Nogrod is pinging my radar as well. :P I wouldn't be averse to voting him... if I didn't have to save myself.”

#449
Explains the selling of the car-thing again (yes, I asked…).

#465 (four minutes before the deadline)
Comments on Eönwë’s cry about a tie in voting: “Continuously stating the obvious is rarely endearing”. Greets PhantomAgan.

#472 (two minutes before)
“This speaks of oddness to me; When the possibility of a Form-wagon rears its ugly head, suddenly both Nogrod and Form become decisive.”

#473 (two minutes before)
Votes Form; “Oh heck... did I just create another tie?”

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A few thoughts.

I'll leave the Shasta - Eomer row for now.

He seems to be complaining and commenting a lot - especially to Eönwë. Also he explains his actions a lot.

Up to two minutes before deadline he hasn't suspected Form at all. Indeed he suggested Form he could join his possible Nogrod-wagon twenty minutes before the DL but that was his only mentioning of him.

Also, I'm a bit at loss with his point on post #472. Would you care to tell what you meant by that "becoming decisive"?

Gah. Some things really look suspicious, first and foremost the kind of a way he seems to wait for any decent opportunity to go for a target that could save Mith without looking too suspicious. I mean: he doesn't so much take part in the late discussion but rather throws in redundancies. Also he's very careful not to bring forwards any names he'd suspect (but me and that he does one time in the late discussion) like he was waiting for the "target of opportunity" - which he then finds in Form.

Okay. That's reading the data with a Devil's advocate -lens.

I'm not sure (well, when you can be in WW?), but I'd say he's topping my suspicion list at the moment. Although I'm afraid there are going to be a few others with him as well before the Day closes. There were such interesting things in the voting and I'd need to see the leads that voting might give me to say more of them.
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