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Old 07-13-2008, 04:32 PM   #1
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If it's a preplanned ploy I would raise my hat to you Shasta (if I had one to be sure) and bow low. And maybe it's possible. The wolves decided on that kind of a plot Shasta would pull off when in dire danger.
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I can prove I protected Kath Night 1.
But those secret messages are not a proof of anything... They only prove that you knew who the target was on Night2 (let's be clear, on Night1 the wolves were not allowed a kill and on Night2 they failed because of the ranger, right?)

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Old 07-13-2008, 04:34 PM   #2
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:35 PM   #3
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If it's a preplanned ploy I would raise my hat to you Shasta (if I had one to be sure) and bow low. And maybe it's possible. The wolves decided on that kind of a plot Shasta would pull off when in dire danger.
But those secret messages are not a proof of anything... They only prove that you knew who the target was on Night2 (let's be clear, on Night1 the wolves were not allowed a kill and on Night2 they failed because of the ranger, right?)

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The hint was there because I was afraid I might die, had planned not to use my self-protect until I was forced to reveal, and I figured it would be a good idea to help the villagers out by letting them know who I protected.

But now that I'm going to be lynched for it...
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:36 PM   #4
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I am getting ever-increasingly annoyed that it seems I'm going to be lynched my first time as a gifted just because Borowolf has been here longer and is more believeable, though.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:37 PM   #5
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If you are telling the truth, my friend, then know that we will avenge you. The village will win, and that's something to be happy about.
A postmortem vengeance is NOT what I had in mind.

I apologize if I seem to be taking this in bad grace, but really...!
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Shasta no you're getting lynched because you're a wolf and realized yours (and your partners) days are numbered.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:38 PM   #7
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Shasta no you're getting lynched because you're a wolf and realized yours (and your partners) days are numbered.
You be quiet. You've done enough.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:45 PM   #8
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I am getting ever-increasingly annoyed that it seems I'm going to be lynched my first time as a gifted just because Borowolf has been here longer and is more believeable, though.
Well you really did make a mess of it yesterday... even if Mith had been innocent, she was just that--innocent, not Gifted, since Eomer had already revealed. As a Ranger, you really should not have made yourself so incredibly high-profile in the last moments--if indeed you were.

Boromir, on the other hand, has no apparent reason to reveal himself as a Gifted today except for the fact that you--a wolf--would be able to hitch a free ride on his Giftedness were he to remain silent.

That, at least, is how I'm reading it... Your posting since the last post I read (Eomer's sign-off) is making me much more confident in your lupinity.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:47 PM   #9
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Well you really did make a mess of it yesterday... even if Mith had been innocent, she was just that--innocent, not Gifted, since Eomer had already revealed. As a Ranger, you really should not have made yourself so incredibly high-profile in the last moments--if indeed you were.

Boromir, on the other hand, has no apparent reason to reveal himself as a Gifted today except for the fact that you--a wolf--would be able to hitch a free ride on his Giftedness were he to remain silent.

That, at least, is how I'm reading it... Your posting since the last post I read (Eomer's sign-off) is making me much more confident in your lupinity.
You know what?

Fine.

If you're so "confident in my lupinity", and you're going to criticize my first-ever performance as a gifted, then go right ahead. Vote me.

I've had it.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:50 PM   #10
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You know what?

Fine.

If you're so "confident in my lupinity", and you're going to criticize my first-ever performance as a gifted, then go right ahead. Vote me.

I've had it.
I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but what's needed isn't so much a defence of your decisions, as you've already given a plausible accounting of them, but rather an accounting of Boro's actions that makes clear why he would come out at this point in the game and accuse himself. There was hardly enough suspicion, as far as I can see, to merit coming out into the open as a wolf right now.
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I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but what's needed isn't so much a defence of your decisions, as you've already given a plausible accounting of them, but rather an accounting of Boro's actions that makes clear why he would come out at this point in the game and accuse himself. There was hardly enough suspicion, as far as I can see, to merit coming out into the open as a wolf right now.
Which is not something Boro is going to give, since you're already lynching me, so your willingness to be convinced means nothing.
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You know what?
Fine.
If you're so "confident in my lupinity", and you're going to criticize my first-ever performance as a gifted, then go right ahead. Vote me.
I've had it.
Okay. Rikae used this tactics once, not so long ago, and made almost everyone nervous as I think no one wants to hurt other's feelings either.

Now please whatever the facts let's not get personal - and I do dislike this as a method of survival if it's that...
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Okay. Rikae used this tactics once, not so long ago, and made almost everyone nervous as I think no one wants to hurt other's feelings either.

Now please whatever the facts let's not get personal - and I do dislike this as a method of survival if it's that...
I can't help it if it's true and it's how I feel at the moment.
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Formendacil, I'll be honest, I considered not revealing because I knew Shasta was trying to drag me out. Since I haven't used my protection yet, that was the biggest reason, and thus had to make sure Shasta's last ditch effort of survival didn't work.
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Old 07-13-2008, 04:35 PM   #15
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If you are telling the truth, my friend, then know that we will avenge you. The village will win, and that's something to be happy about.

If you are lying, then let us finally end the Shasta/Eomer show. I believe gruesome executions still draw ratings like no other spectacle.
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Of all the Days to get a headache and come on late... I mean, we still have twenty-plus minutes, but this double-revelation business has me very confused...

On the one hand, I still very much want to see Shasta as dead, since his vote continues to strike me tenderly... but I have to say that his "proof" of innocence... which I'm not entirely sure wasn't planted... has at least the semblance of validity.

Boromir, on the other hand, is entirely capable of pulling a double-bluff like this, as I recall from games long past--though that was cobbler he was bluffing at in the last hours. Still, the knowledge of his capability leads me to think him suspicious, especially in light of Shasta's self-revelation.

On the other-other hand... Boromir was hardly appearing lynchworthy today. Why come forward--if he's a wolf? Even if we didn't kill Shasta Ranger today, he'd still have revealed, and they could eat him at night... and in all probability another innocent would be lynched.

Eomer, I really wish you hadn't taken off right before this... the guidance of our only apparently-Innocent would have been appreciated, though I guess I can always follow your vote (and I'm still bitter enough over yesterDay to like the example set).
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