Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLIX - At the Source of Darkness

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Nogood- erm, Nogrod

Lalaith's go on tp was definitive

Wrong. If she had shown up as our dead Seer then the comments she made regarding her vote on me would've clearly been interpreted as "This is just a vote, don't follow this." You did see what she posted right after her vote didn't you?-

Originally Posted by Lal

I've little or no idea who is a wolf

That's quite clear.

If she were the Seer she would've had two options- lay low or don't.

If she's the Seer and knows I'm a WW already and chooses the lay low option for survival sake, then there's no need to say anything about me at all, let alone vote for me. But if she chooses not to lay low then she would obviously say something to back up her vote rather than posting words that serve to water down her vote, as if she's afraid her vote will be trusted.

Do you understand this point?

[the phantom]

I have to rush off to meet some out-of-towners for lunch, but I'll be back during the final hour for sure.

[Nerwen]

Groin is dropping out– see the admin thread.

I know! Let's lynch him!

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I know! Let's lynch him!

I heard that! Good luck everyone, with the exception of the Were Wolves!

[Mithalwen]

Did you see that ? He is wishing the Cobblers luck... LYNCH him....

[Durelin]

I don't like Kath's attitude, either.

I do feel a bit sorry for Nogrod, because no one seems to have understood his Day 1 role-playing at all. I don't suspect him for that...that was quite amusing. It's quite easy to use someone's role to get a person lynched, so I'm definitely wary of all the people harping on Nogrod's being cobblerish because of his role.

I still feel there's something wrong with him, though (though I also now find myself agreeing with him some, on some of the points he's made about phantom and Fea)...

My baddie list:

Nogrod
Kath
phantom
Fea
Gwath
Nerwen

I feel good about Shasta, Eonwe, Lommy, and Greenie. I feel pretty good about Nilp and Mith. Not sure about Brinn. Did I miss anyone? (Other than Groin.)

I have this feeling like it's either Nogrod or phantom (which is very foolish, but there it is), and right now I think it's Nogrod. His arguments against phantom, though good, seem fabricated. They do not seem like pure Nogrod suspicion. He seems to be taking the easy route too much for him.

Hah, look at me acting like I know people. Hah!

[Kath]

I'll italicise any part of the post I put up before just so it's clear.

Nog - rather pointless so far, and what's with that 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 list in which everything useful in it could be said in one paragraph making it much easier to read?! Don't know whether he was trying to be warning or inflammatory with that narration quote about the cobblers, the fact that it specifically said it was too dark for them to see each other seemed obvious. My suspicion would be that right now they can't see each other ... but perhaps if they're left alive long enough they will eventually be told who the others are, thus making them a 'better' enemy.

phantom - I am intrigued by the niceness of his first post. But as I'm ill equipped to deal with two Werewolves all on my own, it is currently in my best interest to work with you guys to lynch them. Does that really sound like the phantom we all know?

Durelin - a little bit of stating the obvious. Talks herself in circles about possible Gifted/Cobbler reveals which again strikes me as a little bit of being obvious.

Eonwe -

Gwath -

Form -

Lalaith -

Groin - says to beware of those who are very loud, after mentioning at the beginning of his post that he is quiet.

Nerwen -

Shasta -

Brinn -

Lommy - 'two wolves are easy to find' is an interesting thing to say, I would have thought the fewer wolves there are the harder they are to find. Something odd in the way she's gone after Nogrod all Day, but that's pure gut feeling. Also potentially deliberately misunderstood something phantom said to ... I don't know, try to discredit him?

Mith -

Nilp - does seem to just grab onto what everyone else is thinking.

Greenie -

One thing I will say outside all this. Don't underestimate a Cobbler. Alright, so my experience with them is very different to most as I owe my win in one game to a very impressive Cobbler attack, but that just proves the point. The wolves are the main target it's agreed, but the Cobblers may not be as unthreatening as some people seem to think.

Hmm well, didn't add much else as it turns out. That was all from Day 1 btw. So, results are:

Suspicious:
Nog
phantom
Durelin
Groin
Lommy
Nilp

Not suspicious:
Eonwe
Gwath
Form
Lalaith
Nerwen
Shasta
Brinn
Mith
Greenie

Will now go on and look at toDay and then I'll have to vote because I won't be here at the deadline.

[Kath]

Oh, well I was going to do Day 2 but due to a misunderstanding I have no dinner and so must go and get myself some and then I'm leaving for some socialising. Therefore I have to vote now:

++LOMMY

I have little reasoning for any of those I found suspicious yesterday but I have been keeping up with the thread toDay. She was really quite overly cross I think at an early point and while she hasn't dropped her suspicion of Nogrod it hasn't been mentioned except in one post unlike yesterDay when she was quite vocal about it. I admit it was a close run thing between her and Nog but then I always, always find Nog suspicious so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

[Nerwen]

And now to make myself (pseudo) useful:

The votes so far:

Shasta –> the phantom.
Form –> the phantom.(2)
Fea –> Shasta.
Nilp –> Gwathagor
Kath –> Lommy

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I found more time than I thought I had. Curious, that.

Why is Fea so adamant about keeping phantom alive? Two possibilities strike:

1. She's the seer and dreamt of him.
2. They're wolves together.

Yes, I am a bit annoyed, Lommy. We all saw last game how dangerous it can be to narrow our focus on one person, and phantom is just replaying his strategy from last game, seemingly.

And considering that I'm not the only one to have made an odd early vote (see Form), Fea voting me on that basis alone seems odd.

Edit: X'd with Nerwen.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I found more time than I thought I had. Curious, that.

Why is Fea so adamant about keeping phantom alive? Two possibilities strike:

Then there the third - which is the one I work on. The Phantom (like Anguirel and a few others) is just so much fun that you want him around as long as possible even if you think they are as guilty as sin. Those who have a problem with this well, try to be more entertaining . Not that I think he is particularly iffy. Far more odd to my mind is Lommy saying I am not being silly when she was earlier sounding off about how stupid lynchin Kit was.... which for good or ill was my idea....