Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLIX - At the Source of Darkness

[Nogrod]

If I were a cobbler I would really congratulate myself from yesterDay...

How wrong one can be?

Form was a cobbler.

Fea was an innocent.


With Form I was quite sure he was an innocent (happily our cobbler-assassin disagreed with that).

With Fea I really thought she was up to no good. I just hoped she was a wolf but was more than assured she was at least a cobbler...

10 people.
2 wolves.
2 cobblers.

6-4 on intention toDay.
8-2 on count toDay.


Hooray for the cobbler-assassin!

But let's be careful with the voting for there we're soon going to be the underdogs. Like I said in the beginning of the game. Those cobblers learn Day by Day as we do but they can ally themselves with the wolves who know the situation.

And really, this much RL-hindrances... Well, no can do... but really, even if RL presses please try for there are too many we have nothing to go for and the times are getting rough. Blind lynches are not ones we'd afford now.


But I at least will make a basic re-focus now.

I'm afraid the wolves are hiding in the shadows this time.

EDIT: x'd with tp

[Nogrod]

Quoting myself from #350

Those I have no idea but feel better with:
Shastanis Althreduin
Nerwen
Brinniel
A Little Green

These will be my main concerns toDay.

After that I need to reconsider and think twice whether I wish to stay with my stance with the others.

I mean, I don't believe we have two wolves in that bunch I have just quoted but I'm getting pretty sure there is at least one. Looking at the game this far looks like a classical "loudmouths kill each other and the wolves play cool and noncontroversial".

[Durelin]

I still feel Lommy and Shasta are innocent.

I feel that Nogrod and Kath aren't.

I think Greenie might be evil.

I don't know about Brinniel or phantom.

Grah.

[Durelin]

I feel Eonwe is innocent.

I think Nerwen might be evil.

[Durelin]

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

[Eönwë]

"Now that's an eye opener and no mistake"

Good Work Cobbler Assassin

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Durelin

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

The question is: What do you think of Kath, Dury?

[Kath]

Brinn, Nog and Lommy started a very late bandwagon against Fea yesterday. I had wondered where it had come from when I discovered she'd be lynched. They're going on and on about not having a flurry of last minute voting and bandwagons and there they go and do the exact same thing. I don't think they're suspicious for voting for her, she was second on my list, but I think the manner of it most odd.

Ah, and to answer something from Nog yesterDay. Just because I'm not suspecting you doesn't mean anything. With phantom, Fea and Nilp in the game you barely got my attention in terms of automatic suspicion. Now, however, after yesterDay, you've got it. Brinn too actually, more so than Lommy for some reason though I'm not sure why.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Durelin

What do you think of Kath, Nog?

As I said earlier I do think she might be a cobbler or then she just plays differently - looking at her points there it might be a reasonable assumption added with the scarcity of time and all that.

But this is mutual between us. I tend to suspect her of any possible evil there is whatever the situation... and similarily she may be lost from my view if something more eye-catching comes about but when that is over I tend to turn to back suspecting her. Like she does with me.

Originally Posted by Eönwe

And there was Dury. But actually it's not a bandwaggon when only one person votes.

But you need to look at when and why people make their votes! Dury was indeed voting safe... indeed the "safest" of us all as there had been talk about voting Fea and some people agreeing and she just began it for real. That's a good place for a wolf.

A list of votes may tell you a thing or two but you should also look back at the times of the votes and the reasons given to them at that particular time of discussion to get a fuller picture.

Although I still think Dury's remark on Mith's general innocence makes her more an innocent than a wolf.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But you need to look at when and why people make their votes! Dury was indeed voting safe... indeed the "safest" of us all as there had been talk about voting Fea and some people agreeing and she just began it for real. That's a good place for a wolf.

You, on the other hand, were in the bandwaggoning position. You turned it from a suspicion into a lynch candidate. After someone gets three votes, people just attach themselves onto that or one of the others with a similar amount of votes.

[the phantom]

I'm going to leave Kath alone for the time being. I really don't think she's a Wolf. She could be a Cobbler, but then so could just about anyone. Plus we still have our Assassin to help with those.

I came away from Day 2 viewing Nerwen as good, and since she wasn't around yesterday my opinion hasn't changed. I'd like to see what her take is after being removed from us for a bit.

I'm thinking that if Nog is evil he is a Werewolf rather than a Cobbler.

Eonwe and Lommy I think are innocent.

I don't have a solid opinion about Brin, Durelin, Shasta, and Green. I swung back and forth between "certainly guilty" and "definitely innocent" during my last skim-through.

[Nogrod]

Let's make these clear - lending Eönwe's list and adding to it...

Day 1:

Lommy: Nogrod (1)
Shasta: Kitanna [ordo](1)
Gwath [seer]: Kitanna [ordo](2)
Greenie: Gwath [seer](1)
Durelin: Gwath [seer](2)
Mith [cobbler]: Kitanna [ordo](3)
Nilp [ordo]: Kitanna [ordo](4)
Lalaith [ordo]: Ye phantome (1)
Nogrod: Groin [ordo](1)
Brinn: Greenie (1)
Nerwen: Kitanna [ordo](5)
+ Ye phantome: Lalaith [ordo](1)
+ Eönwë: Greenie (2)

Lynched: Kitanna [ordo]

Night 2:

Killed: Lalaith [ordo]
Assassinated: -

Day 2:

Shasta: Ye phantome (1)
Form [cobbler]: Ye phantome (2)
Fea [ordo]: Shasta (1)
Nilp [ordo]: Gwath [seer] (1)
Kath: Lommy (1)
Durelin: Nogrod (1)
Eönwë: Gwath [seer] (2)
Greenie: Gwath [seer] (3)
Mith [cobbler]: Lommy (2)
Ye phantome: Gwath [seer](4)
Brinn: Durelin (1)
Nerwen: Lommy (3)
Nogrod: Durelin (2)

Lynched: Gwath [seer]

Night 3:

Killed: Mith [cobbler]
Assassinated: -


Day 3:
Greenie: Form [cobbler] (1)
Durelin: Fea [ordo] (1)
Brinniel: Fea [ordo] (2)
Shasta: Form [cobbler] (2)
Lommy: Fea [ordo] (3)
Nogrod: Fea [ordo] (4)
the phantom: Form [cobbler] (3)

Night 4:

Killed: Nilp [ordo]
Assassinated: Form [cobbler]


On Day 3, seven of thirteen voted!!!

This can not be.


EDIT: X'd from Dury's first one onwards.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Let's make these clear - lending Eönwe's list and adding to it...

Hey! I was just about to do that.