Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLIX - At the Source of Darkness

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Shasta has made 42 posts. More than every one of you.
During those 42 posts he has not given ONE single opinion about ANY of you.
That has got to be the most suspicious thing I've ever seen. How can you have the second most posts of any living player and totally avoid giving opinions?

I kind of noticed that, but didn't pay attention to it until now. I think it indeed is rather suspicious, but I'm not sure if it's wolvish. More cobblerish, maybe. Shasta would be a very bold wolf to play like that... but a smart one, clearly.

Originally Posted by Kath

This new way of playing is fun but it's not actuall doing anyone any good so maybe I'll go back to the old way for a Day and try to be of some real help.

The way Kath makes a "show" of her new playing style makes me wonder... looks like someone not innocent throwing excuses around...

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Excuse me... "We"? Look who's killed most of the cobblers!

Oh, hilarious, maybe we should be grateful to the wolves for eliminating cobblers? See, wolves, unlike normally, we actually like you because you have killed two cobblers for us.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Or– as I said on Day One– let's just go for people who look suspicious. We don't seem to be very good at telling wolves from cobblers in this game anyway.

Yeah... and after all this stuff I wouldn't be surprised to find wolves who are trying to look like cobblers and cobblers who are trying to look like wolves... So maybe we indeed should just concentrate on suspicious people in general...

Originally Posted by Brinn

As for being a wolf...I'm pretty torn. It does seem rather bold for a wolf to so strongly attack an ordo. Usually wolves aren't so clear in their suspicions...but not always, as I can recall it's happened before. And of course, it would be easy for a wolf to use the "I wouldn't do that" excuse and play the "sorry I'm such a misguided ordo" card. But is that something Durelin would do? I don't know.

I think she is well capable of that.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

It would be funny if these two were our wolves, wouldn't it?

I could picture that... and I'd be really banging my head against the wall or something.

Originally Posted by Brinn

Eönwë - While I've been thinking he seems pretty innocent, I'm starting to get a bit worried for the mere fact that the wolves haven't killed him yet. I mean, a lot of players have disregarded him...so why wouldn't they pick him? To confuse us? Or maybe he is a wolf...

Too true... and he has managed to slip under the radar rather marvellously as well...

By the way, I find it hilarious that a couple of people have said I've slipped under their radar. That really doesn't happen often. Should I be glad now?

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Btw, I suggest we vote a bit earlier toDay. That doesn't mean it has to be super early, but perhaps this time everyone should vote before the actual deadline..

Agreed...

[Eönwë]

Ok, here's my world-famous (well, I might be slightly exaggerating) Eönwë-table, with a bit of Noggishness (the underlining):



Day 1:

Lommy: Nogrod [ordo] (1)
Shasta: Kitanna [ordo] (1)
Gwath [seer]: Kitanna [ordo] (2)
Greenie [cobbler]: Gwath [seer] (1)
Durelin: Gwath [seer](2)
Mith [cobbler]: Kitanna [ordo] (3)
Nilp [ordo]: Kitanna [ordo] (4)
Lalaith [ordo]: Ye phantome (1)
Nogrod [ordo]: Groin [ordo] (1)
Brinn: Greenie [cobbler](1)
*Nerwen: Kitanna [ordo] (5)
*+Ye phantome: Lalaith [ordo] (1)
*Eönwë: Greenie [cobbler] (2)

Lynched: Kitanna [ordo]

Night 2:

Killed: Lalaith [ordo]
Assassinated: -

Day 2:

Shasta: Ye phantome (1)
Form [cobbler]: Ye phantome (2)
Fea [ordo]: Shasta (1)
Nilp [ordo]: Gwath [seer] (1)
Kath: Lommy (1)
Durelin: Nogrod [ordo] (1)
Eönwë: Gwath [seer] (2)
Greenie [cobbler]: Gwath [seer] (3) <2>
Mith [cobbler]: Lommy (2)
Ye phantome: Gwath [seer](4)
Brinn: Durelin (1)
Nerwen: Lommy (3)
(+?)Nogrod [ordo]: Durelin (2)

Lynched: Gwath [seer]

Night 3:

Killed: Mith [cobbler]
Assassinated: -

Day 3:
Greenie [cobbler]: Form [cobbler] (1)
Durelin: Fea [ordo] (1)
Brinn: Fea [ordo] (2)
Shasta: Form [cobbler] (2)
Lommy: Fea [ordo] (3)
Nogrod [ordo]: Fea [ordo] (4)
Ye phantome: Form [cobbler] (3)

Night 4:

Killed: Nilp [ordo]
Assassinated: Form [cobbler]

Day 4:

Shasta: Ye phantome <2>
Durelin: Nogrod [ordo] <2>
Kath: Nogrod [ordo] (2)
Greenie [cobbler]: Shasta
Brinn: Durelin <2>
Eönwë: Nogrod [ordo] (3)
*Nogrod[ordo]: Durelin (2) <2>
*Lommy: Nogrod [ordo] (4) <2>
*Ye phantome: Durelin (3)

Night 5:

Killed: Greenie [cobbler]
Assassinated: -




*= vote didn't count
+= thought/ knew vote didn't count
()= total votes for person that day so far
<>= total votes for person from an individual so far
[]= known status/ postion e.g. ordo

[Nerwen]

Thanks, Eönwë!

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Yeah... and after all this stuff I wouldn't be surprised to find wolves who are trying to look like cobblers and cobblers who are trying to look like wolves...

Don't forget gifteds trying to look like cobblers and/or wolves. I suppose that's what did for Gwath... However, even if we end up getting the assassin by accident, we've still got the wolves to kill cobblers for us.

I did like the latest narration:

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Lily was overjoyed: You are doing so great! I always wanted to actually meet one of you, and now I'm here with you both, and you're even planning to kill me!

Oh, not again...

[Nerwen]

A Little Green's last words.

Day 4.

#454. Explains why she hadn't posted earlier. Says the Nog-Dury affair is weird. Says she would rather think about possible wolves, one of whom she is sure is keeping a low profile Says most of the votes on the previous Day could have been evil.

#456. Makes a list:

The villagers.

Shasta - I still don't have a read on him. His theories do seem quite far-fetched but I don't know whether it's to be read as wolvery or cobblery or innocence.
Eönwë - I think he might well be an under-the-radar wolf. Then again, I can't be sure of him since I remember very little of what he has said. I should have a look at him and will if I have the time.
Nerwen - I still categorise her as innocentish because she seems as much.
Kath - The consensus seems to be that she's a cobbler. I think she isn't. I think the cobbler assassin might have checked her the night people expected him/her to take Form. Or am I mixing the days up? I'm really too lazy and tired to check...
Dury - Feels innocent, though not as much as before. She might be a cobbler, but I don't think she is a wolf.
Brinn - Under my reindeer, my first impression is a vague "she usually makes sense". Should have a look on her, though..
Nog - He could be anything. No idea.
Greenie - Me!! (Woo hoo.) I'm no wolf. Nor a cobbler, for that matter. Definitely not.
the phantom - YesterDay I was pretty sure he was just a bored innocent. ToDay I have the feeling that he might well be a wolf...
Lommy - I never suspect her. Never. My gut says once again that she is innocent but maybe I should check her. Gah. Too lazy.

So who, then, could be the wolves? Eönwë and phantom? Or maybe cuddly little Lommy? Brinn? Nog? Shasta? I'm too confused. Don't know...

#463. Says Phantom-Shasta debate is silly. Says Shasta's reasoning is weird, but so is the phantom's.

#461. Says she's too tried to make an analysis.

#470. Says we shouldn't concentrate on Nogrod and Durelin so much. Thinks Brinn's last post (#468, making points against Durelin) sounds a bit wolvish.

#474. Says Nogrod's last post sounded "very wolvish". (#471, where he says he has "a bad feeling" that the people who had already voted against him– Durelin and Kath– were evil.)

#475. Votes Shasta!! Explains the surprise vote as being because Shasta is "under the radar" (????) That's such a strange comment I can't understand how none of us picked it up. (Ah, 20-20 hindsight!)

Comments: tries hard to play down both the phantom-Shasta brawl, and the Nogrod-Durelin one, and looks for an alternative lynching candidate. Clearly, she thought she had allies among the combatants. It looks as if Durelin was her guess for the most likely wolf/cobbler and Shasta the least... although just before voting she thought it was Nogrod... I suppose she looked at the case she'd made against him, realised she might be right, and panicked.

She didn't go after anyone strongly or consistantly, so I think it's unlikely she was killed for being dangerous, or to frame anyone.

EDIT: fixed bolding.

[Nerwen]

No-one around?

Well, I have to vote early, so–

++SHASTA.

He's more likely a cobbler than a wolf, but still...

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

unless tp instructed him to (and we all know how bossy he can be

I don't think Shasta would take to that...

Alright, I'm tired and grumpy and my roommate's incessant humming is driving me crazy and I have to leave for class in about an hour. Sooooo, no more apologizing and probably no inspired arguments from me.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I am just saying... our lynching record is nothing to get complacent about, to say the least.

I'm getting rather fed up with these sorts of comments from Nerwen...

I actually am finding Nerwen and Brinniel the most suspicious right now because they seem the least caught up in the insanity, which could be from having a better idea what's going on and having a particular purpose.

Lommy could fit that, too, but for some reason I just can't feel like she's evil. Yergh.

Maybe I should just vote for Shasta...but he amuses me...

I don't know why I'm not suspicious of Kath anymore. Don't know why I'm not suspicious of the phantom. And Eonwe's just... *shrug*

Yep, best I got. Oh well. Though I'm feeling more my usual self now - was feeling more emotionally connected with the game than usual for a bit there.

[Durelin]

++Brinniel

She just seems to have been in such a good position all game, voting-wise and everything... *shrugs* Really need to run.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Brin

Actually, the thought came up when tp said he wouldn't bother voting Shasta because he thinks him a cobbler...easy excuse for a wolf. But would a Shasta-wolf so boldly attack his fellow wolf?

Gah, don't say that Brin. It makes me feel like you're trying to get me to run ahead and vote Shasta, because if I don't then of course we are the two WWs doing a bold ploy. It's sort of similar to something I did back in the day to Ang- goading him into his vote.

Sorry, I know I probably shouldn't suspect you for it, but I'm starting to get paranoid. I figure the reason why I'm alive is because the WWs think I'll be useful, which makes me rather ticked. So I feel I should suspect the people I haven't been suspecting. Or perhaps that is what they're counting on and so I should continue on as I have. Or perhaps they just feel I'm lynchable. Gah!

Originally Posted by Dur

I'm getting rather fed up with these sorts of comments from Nerwen...

You mean like the other day "Let's try and lynch a baddie" or something like that? Yeah, I know what you mean. Does anyone know if Nerwen regularly makes comments like that?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

He's more likely a cobbler than a wolf, but still...

See, and that is why I'm so reluctant to vote for him. If he turns out to be the Cobbler and I vote to lynch him, then guess what- he wins! He got what he wanted.