Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLIX - At the Source of Darkness

[Thinlómien]

I really found it funny that we ended up killing half of the cobblers. What actually makes me laugh is that we seriously considered killing Form on Night2 because we wondered if he was a very bold seer who had caught tp... he was kind of making seer hints, too.

Originally Posted by Brinn

You know, I had this strong feeling that my final comment was gonna get me killed...

It really wasn't that... we killed you because we figured it makes little difference who we kill and I thought you are most probably the Assassin. (Nerwen was my second option. She would have been my first guess but somehow her inactivity and access problems made me consider her an ordo...)

Speaking of that, would you Nerwen tell us who did you hunt during the game?

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, there you go, Lommy– you got me, Durelin and Nogrod back for WW whatever-it-was.

Ah yes. Now I don't need to be so wary about you anymore... do I?

Originally Posted by Durelin

Dang, Lommy - I went back to look at a game in which you had been a wolf, because I don't remember ever playing in a game in which you were one, and you seemed so different!

I know. Maybe I've just learned to be evil - in my previous wolf games I've been lynched on Days 1, 2 and 3 and once I was pretty much a known wolf very early on, but couldn't be lynched.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Yes– I'm so sorry, Shasta. I think you're under some kind of curse... like Cassandra– it is fated that you will always be right and no-one will ever believe you... Your parents didn't anger some supernatural being or other when you were a baby, did they?

I'm sorry too. But as for the curse, I think it's more like if he had managed to anger some god by not returning his/her love, according to the original story...

Lastly, I find it funny that everybody kept saying I'm so very quiet. Maybe I was a little quieter than normal, but I had the second most posts on the thread. So not really quiet at all. I just wonder - has there ever before been a ww game where the wws have the most posts and win?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Near the end there I started feeling like you were maniuplating like crazy.

Aw, thanks.

Originally Posted by Green

Unfortunately I wasn't much suspected, I guess I was too cautious

Yeah, that's kind of why we killed you. I looked and you and you didn't seem to be trying to make enemies and get yourself killed, so I figured if you were a Cobbler you were taking a risk and had to expect that we might kill you.

Originally Posted by LommyWolf

I just wonder - has there ever before been a ww game where the wws have the most posts and win?

Yeah, I noticed when the game ended that we had the most posts. I wouldn't bet it's happened often.

As far as killing Mith...

*sigh*

It really was tough to do. We did in fact suspect her of Cobblery, but bumped her off anyway.

If she was a Cobbler, we figured she had helped me the day before because she thought I was a WW. And we figured she thought I was a WW because she thought Fea was the Seer at the time.

But then Gwath died and was proved the Seer, and thus I was worried that she would turn against me, no longer being confident about my identity. The last thing I wanted was a Cobbler who thought me to be good as well as respected my abilities enough to know that I needed to be killed for the good of her team.

Plus killing her bought me some innocence in the eyes of some, as I suspected it might. That was a huge bonus about the move. In addition she appeared to be Seer-dreamed-innocent, and WWs rarely leave those around.

And lastly she announced that she would be gone for a day, and so it seemed rather sporting to kill her right then. That pushed us over the edge on the kill choice. That and she had tried to lynch Lommy.

We killed Nilp because the village had been to our liking the day before without him in the mix, so we figured if we kept the same people around things might go well again.

Brin was a bit of a yeah-whatever pick. We figured that no matter who we killed things could go in any direction, and that it would simply come down to how we played it during the day.

[Thinlómien]

And just to add a few words about killing Mith, it also was because it looked like Gwath had dreamt of her. Who did you actually dream of, Gwath? Was it indeed Mith and Groin or something else?

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

At least I kind of counted them out from my list of possible wolves at that time just because of that. No, no, Lommy and/or the phantom wouldn't kill Mith during the Night at least so early...

Yeah, I think a lot of us mistakenly pushed them aside (particularly tp) for that very reason. Though while reading Day 6, I noticed tp repeat the "why would I kill Mith if I were a wolf?" argument. The fact that he repeated it made me suspect much more....it's a shame I was already dead by then.

Originally Posted by Lommy

It really wasn't that... we killed you because we figured it makes little difference who we kill and I thought you are most probably the Assassin.

Originally Posted by tp

Brin was a bit of a yeah-whatever pick. We figured that no matter who we killed things could go in any direction, and that it would simply come down to how we played it during the day.

Now, should that make me feel any better about dying?

But really, I've noticed that I seem to be often picked for the whatever-kill.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Who did you actually dream of, Gwath?

I'll second that question. Who did you dream of?

[Macalaure]

I have to say this game went quite a different way than we thought it would. We expected one wolf to die eventually (misguided cobblers, seer dream, or a wolf mistake) and one cobbler to survive to make it to the end and create some paranoia. It was really fun to follow the game with our knowledge, just not the way we thought.

I was a bit concerned about the wolves ability to make it through until the end because of the attention that tp was inevitably going to get and Lommy's dislike for the evil role, but you two did marvellously. With Eonwe basically killed by you as well, you disposed yourselves of almost all your helpers on your own, and yet managed to go through the game without being suspected much at all. *bows*

And then seeing Shasta being right, but not listened to, from the beginning on...

Originally Posted by Brinniel

You know, I had this strong feeling that my final comment was gonna get me killed...

That was so hilarious from our point of view.

Great and very entertaining game everyone!

And thanks for liking the narrations.


Hoping that Gwath and Nerwen won't mind, here are their picks:

Gwath dreamt of Groin during Night 1 and Mith during Night 2, so your deductions were correct.

Nerwen hunted Lalaith during Night 2, missed her kill the following night, then killed Form, and went after Durelin during Night 5.

Originally Posted by Durelin

I must say I have found such remarks...not fun.

Aww, I'm sorry Durelin. I was just kidding, no offense meant.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I swear, every time it comes down to a make-or-break day on this forum, a thunderstorm rolls in and knocks out my internet.

Not that I wouldn't have been lynched anyway. I mean, why on earth would someone EVER listen to ME? It's not as if, y'know, I've ever been right, or anything.

I cannot believe you let Phantom win. Arrrrgh.

~A very frustrated and annoyed Shasta~

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Mac

Aww, I'm sorry Durelin. I was just kidding, no offense meant.

Hehe, sorry, I know...I don't mean to be whiney, it's just there were several comments (not saying several comments just from you) that seemed like they were critical and when I'm feeling stupid, it doesn't matter if it's meant all in good fun... ><

I'm sorry, Shasta. I really didn't feel you were a wolf for most of the game, and I wonder if I might have put more stock into what I was thinking about phantom if you were around declaring how evil he was...hindsight, but who knows...and not that that will make you feel better...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Plus killing her bought me some innocence in the eyes of some, as I suspected it might. That was a huge bonus about the move.

Also, the fact that Mith turned out to be a cobbler made me more-or-less drop my suspicions of Lommy. I thought I'd been manipulated into distrusting the dear little penguin.

[Mithalwen]

I would say I was an inadvertantly successful cobbler... I forgot that I shouldn't draw attention to Lommy's oddness and really TP is too much fun to kill early even if I could see the blood dripping from his fangs....