What do you assign to Mordor?

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Having a bad cold that's not serious enough to count as "sick"/"ill" but still is horrible and causes headaches and light-headedness. For 3 weeks.

Shouldn't you be seeking help now, Eonwe?

I assign Edward Said for starting Orientalism, to Mordor, and may he rot there for all eternity. Throw in Daddy Karl (Marx) as well. And all those intellectuals, who are the cause of my pain.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Lindale

I assign Edward Said for starting Orientalism, to Mordor, and may he rot there for all eternity. Throw in Daddy Karl (Marx) as well. And all those intellectuals, who are the cause of my pain.

That just hurts

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

That just hurts

Aww, Rune. Maybe after my exam I'll throw Daddy Karl back to Isengard. But not right now. He belongs to Mordor right now. For all his lovely ideas, which I have to study in relation to Said, Bhabba, those people whose names I can't pronounce.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Having to get up and function when you'd rather be lingering in your very warm and invited bed, enjoying that hazy delirious quality tangentially associated with napping.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I have a horrible urge to post something like "Agan's mood swings" but that would be rather evil, wouldn't it?

Yes. I would hate you for the rest of my life.

Originally Posted by Lindale

Being born a girl (well, just today, and maybe this time next month).

Only "this time next month"?
Add there PMS when you're angry, moody and annoyed with everything and everyone twice as much as you would normally be for about two weeks a month. Hey, that's half my life!

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Only "this time next month"?
Add there PMS when you're angry, moody and annoyed with everything and everyone twice as much as you would normally be for about two weeks a month. Hey, that's half my life!

Unfortunately the family and the boyfriend say that I am able to contain my being evil during these... periods. That, or I am just evil all my life. Bwahaha.

I assign to Mordor my own mother not remembering our birthday, preciousss.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Only "this time next month"?
Add there PMS when you're angry, moody and annoyed with everything and everyone twice as much as you would normally be for about two weeks a month. Hey, that's half my life!

Not forgetting the tearfulness, and sugar cravings and myriad other minor annoyances.

And it is a big fat lie that it gets better as you get older - it doesn't. Evening primrose oil helps but I keep forgetting to take it and remain feral

Now how long, do you reckon it will be before a male ventures back on to this thread in the face of overwhelming rampant female hormones ... mwahahahaha

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Not forgetting the tearfulness, and sugar cravings and myriad other minor annoyances.

Salt cravings. The sudden revelation that everybody in your life secretly hates you but is simply too polite to say anything about it.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Lindale

Aww, Rune. Maybe after my exam I'll throw Daddy Karl back to Isengard. But not right now. He belongs to Mordor right now. For all his lovely ideas, which I have to study in relation to Said, Bhabba, those people whose names I can't pronounce.

Oh, Bhabha. Did I mention that some of those "works" I was assigned two weeks ago were written by that lovely fellow? To Mordor with him and all his beloved jargon!
I also assign the practice, on the part of politicians, of attempting to show one's alignment with the ordinary 'folks' by invoking the most insulting and shallow set of stereotypes ever gleaned from network TV...

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I also assign the practice, on the part of politicians, of attempting to show one's alignment with the ordinary 'folks' by invoking the most insulting and shallow set of stereotypes ever gleaned from network TV...

But if they didn't, what would happen then? People always complain that politicians lie, scheme, polish everything up and never tell them the whole truth or gives a straight answer to anything. But if a politician once in a while speaks straight from the heart and gives the people a naked truth the media pounces on it and all hell breaks loose. To Mordor I assign the fact that people in general actually want the kind of politicians they get.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by skip spence

But if they didn't, what would happen then? People always complain that politicians lie, scheme, polish everything up and never tell them the whole truth or gives a straight answer to anything. But if a politician once in a while speaks straight from the heart and gives the people a naked truth the media pounces on it and all hell breaks loose. To Mordor I assign the fact that people in general actually want the kind of politicians they get.

Politicians that cater to the lowest common denominator serve the dining public in shallow bowls.

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Originally Posted by Morthoron

Politicians that cater to the lowest common denominator serve the dining public in shallow bowls.

If the dining public knew what they were eating, would they be able to stomach it I wonder?

Jeez, I just watched a few youtube-videos of Sarah Palin and her ignorance and stupidity shocked me (I haven't payed much attention to the US election so far). Even old GWB comes across as a sharp tool compared to her. It's absurd really, like the worst kind of Disney-movie, having a simple "hockey mum" who probably believes Dinosaurs roamed the earth together with men 6000 years ago running for vice president. I mean, she could be just a heartbeat away from being the President soon enough.

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by skip spence

But if a politician once in a while speaks straight from the heart and gives the people a naked truth the media pounces on it and all hell breaks loose. To Mordor I assign the fact that people in general actually want the kind of politicians they get.

Oh, would that I see that politician at least once in my lifetime. Though to be fair, I think this guy would be close to that.

[Kath]

Fillings.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Lindale

Throw in Daddy Karl (Marx) as well. And all those intellectuals, who are the cause of my pain.

I can second that, Lindale. I also assign Marxist professors who give you a failing grade on a paper just because you disagree with Marxism and are promoting the designs of Capatolism! I assign teachers who indoctrinate you instead of teaching you!

All the universities in this nation stink! The only good colleges left are the Hillsdale College and the military institutes.

[Gollum the Great]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I can second that, Lindale. I also assign Marxist professors who give you a failing grade on a paper just because you disagree with Marxism and are promoting the designs of Capatolism! I assign teachers who indoctrinate you instead of teaching you!

All the universities in this nation stink! The only good colleges left are the Hillsdale College and the military institutes.

I agree with the stuff about Marx; but I think you exaggerate Groin, when saying that all the universities are flawed. There are a few (smallish sized ones) which provide a decent education. Though certainly, I wouldn't go to most of the colleges in the U. S.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Diane C

I assign Windows Vista, Office 2007 and Visual Studio 2008 - all useless and full of bugs and bloatware. Even Sauron himself would probably dispair after a while

That's why I switched to Linux.

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I can second that, Lindale. I also assign Marxist professors who give you a failing grade on a paper just because you disagree with Marxism and are promoting the designs of Capatolism! I assign teachers who indoctrinate you instead of teaching you!

All the universities in this nation stink! The only good colleges left are the Hillsdale College and the military institutes.

While I do not wish to turn this thread into a political debate, I must say that giving you a failing grade just because you disagree with the teacher sounds pretty unlikely to me. Are you sure it was not because of the fact that you disagreed but the way you disagreed? Say, if you were a teacher and someone wrote a paper strongly criticizing Capitalism without giving (in your opinion) proper reasons for it, would you be tempted to give them a failing grade?

[Diane C]

I would also like to offload commercial terrestrial TV to Mordor!

Gollum doesn't know the depths of torture & misery until he's watched ITV1 for a day, especially Daytime TV

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I can second that, Lindale. I also assign Marxist professors who give you a failing grade on a paper just because you disagree with Marxism and are promoting the designs of Capatolism! I assign teachers who indoctrinate you instead of teaching you!

All the universities in this nation stink! The only good colleges left are the Hillsdale College and the military institutes.

I'll take that as the term-paper-hangover, wherein suddenly philosophers and thinkers you love reading about you just suddenly want to toss into the fiery pits of Mordor because you just hafta articulate things and your interpretations on them.

If you are saying that your professors (I assume you're in US or Europe?) indoctrinate you instead of teaching you, try University of the Philippines, Diliman campus (the other campuses are sissies!). A semester would perhaps drive you insane. Our college is notorious for producing the likes of founders-of-Communist-parties and students who would eventually go to the mountains as guerillas against the government, usw. Try googling Jose Ma. Sison, formerly a professor of English. But I also have one professor, and I'm almost tempted to write his name, who does not have a political stance, and it reduced him into a thing-of-the-past, a professor never promoted, despite his good teaching skills and his lifetime ambitions to learn Aramaic (to read the Bible) and to go to the places his heroes Aeneas and Odysseus have been (which I think he already has done).

I for one am not Marxist, but I enjoy reading Marx once in a while. In fact I became so amused with it I actually decided to take German as language elective so that I can read it in its original language.

And now that I've gotten past all my papers and exams, Edward Said and Daddy Karl no longer belong in Mordor! Yay! They'll be back here maybe next semester.

But if you want a Marxist into Mordor, then Althusser. Really large nutcase. I suppose geniuses are all nutcases. Which should relieve me a bit.

[Lindale]

Domestic violence is something assigned to Mordor, no questions asked, no excuses needed. And above all, no traditions blamed--it's tradition for the men to discipline their wives! DV is DV is DV is DV and shall be DV till the end of the world.

[Mithennor]

hear, hear!! I whole-heatedly agree with you

additionally I also assign:

*sorority girls
*gross stupidity (though I might be repeating myself here)
*country music
*Hannah Montana
*My university's president
*Peppers
*my crazy (abusive) ex b/f
*the mechanic who ruined my alternator.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Lindale

I'll take that as the term-paper-hangover, wherein suddenly philosophers and thinkers you love reading about you just suddenly want to toss into the fiery pits of Mordor because you just hafta articulate things and your interpretations on them.

Nay, I don't think it's even necassary to write about Karl Marx in an marketing class! The professor told me to my face that I was "ignorant of the genius of Marx" and that he would not tolerate me writing about a "corrupt" system of marketing! It that's not indoctrination than I would like to know what is.

Yes, you're right Gollum. I was speaking out of frusteration back then and I'm sure that there are lots of great Universities in the America, but private colleges are better.

Originally Posted by Mithennor

*country music

Not all Country Music I hope, just the newer rockier bands.

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Nay, I don't think it's even necassary to write about Karl Marx in an marketing class! The professor told me to my face that I was "ignorant of the genius of Marx" and that he would not tolerate me writing about a "corrupt" system of marketing! It that's not indoctrination than I would like to know what is.

One cannot deny the "genius" as your prof put it, of Das Kapital. I'm even taking German so I can read it in its original. Having full or nearly-full knowledge of what Marx theorizes about the system of capitalism is not the same as screaming Revolution! Workers of the world unite! Why, if I did that, I'd be destructing myself, being a very small-time "capitalist" (I manage bazaars every Christmas or whenever an occasion presents itself, which is not a very rare thing). Marx gave a very good theory of economics that rivalled Adam Smith with his theory of the invisible hand and the unpredictability of market forces.

Don't worry Groin. Every single day of my life at UP Diliman, I meet red-heads who keep screaming revolution! but who end up deconstructing themselves anyway. It's not only you who's annoyed at those revolutionaries who in fact just dwell in their darling ivory towers. Yay for sembreak!

[Gollum the Great]

Rock. Anything that has no rhythm or beauty, no worth-while attributes and -when in a generous mood- can best be described as "catching", distracts one from his duty and mocks or plays down upon lawful authority is best for orcs. I can't believe any person with any form of honour would lower himself to listen to that trash.

[Morthoron]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Rock. Anything that has no rhythm or beauty, no worth-while attributes and -when in a generous mood- can best be described as "catching", distracts one from his duty and mocks or plays down upon lawful authority is best for orcs. I can't believe any person with any form of honour would lower himself to listen to that trash.

Hmmm...as far as rock, I wouldn't assign as Mordorion a slap at authority like The Who's 'Won't Get Fooled Again', Dylan's 'Hurricane' or 'Masters of War', Peter Gabriel's 'Biko' or The Clash's 'London Calling' (Mordor is fascistic and despotic by design; ergo, there can be no dissent against authority). Revolt against authority is not Orkish, particularly when authority is often Sauronish itself. As far as rock lacking rhythm, beauty or other attributes, which genre are you referring to, as the term 'rock' encompasses innumerable offshoots and branches?

I would like assign the 2008 Presidential Debates to Mordor. Never have so few said so much about so little. Like the Roman god Janus, the politicians face in opposite directions but are joined at the hip, mutually mouthing specific sound-bytes palatable for their partisan public.

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Rock. Anything that has no rhythm or beauty, no worth-while attributes and -when in a generous mood- can best be described as "catching", distracts one from his duty and mocks or plays down upon lawful authority is best for orcs. I can't believe any person with any form of honour would lower himself to listen to that trash.

There is great beauty in discordancy (listen to some Drum 'n' Bass or maybe some Stockhausen); the 'catching' rhythm of music is also found in poetry; being distracted is a wonderful thing (Tolkien was completely distracted - he could have been writing academic papers instead of trinkets about Hobbits); and authority must always be mocked in case it gets too full of itself

I'm happy to go to Mordor though, if my record collection must be sent there - I couldn't live without it!

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Rock. Anything that has no rhythm or beauty, no worth-while attributes and -when in a generous mood- can best be described as "catching", distracts one from his duty and mocks or plays down upon lawful authority is best for orcs. I can't believe any person with any form of honour would lower himself to listen to that trash.

Believe it. I am particularly honorable, and I also listen to rock on a regular basis. It can be done.

I will assume that you have a very specialized definition of rock, because your description of "rock" sounds very little like the music I listen to.

[Lindale]

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Rock. Anything that has no rhythm or beauty, no worth-while attributes and -when in a generous mood- can best be described as "catching", distracts one from his duty and mocks or plays down upon lawful authority is best for orcs. I can't believe any person with any form of honour would lower himself to listen to that trash.

Gollum, please don't tell me you're including Nightwish or anything like that lovely Finnish group with a lovely Swedish singer in your list. Nah, on second thought, it's metal, isn't it? If you do, the most I can do is tell you, don't listen to rock if you don't like it but don't tell anybody else not to listen to it.

Though if you're referring to MCR or its likes, I wouldn't have a problem, but maybe Volo might.

Maybe there are crapheads out there who listen to rock all day and do nothing else but breathe and bang their heads, but there are also decent people who like rock. In my senior year at high school we used some rock songs to discuss sound.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Oh, Bhabha. Did I mention that some of those "works" I was assigned two weeks ago were written by that lovely fellow? To Mordor with him and all his beloved jargon!

My prof did some "dumbing-down" of Bhabha when we discussed it, relating to postcolonial theory eros and fetishism. It was so fun and made a hell lot of sense, I never bothered to read the original text, but I attempted twice.