Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Gollum the Great]

Huh, what?

This is bizarre. What's going on?

Can anyone explain this to me??????

[Gwathagor]

Fea claims that Eomer is the Ranger, and Eomer supports this claim. He also says that he did not protect Nogrod and suggests that there are two Rangers. There are several of us who think that this is all bull and that Fea would not reveal Eomer's special role if she was innocent or if he was in fact the Ranger. That's it in a nutshell.

[satansaloser2005]

If Eomer's the Ranger and he revealed (you know what I mean) didn't he/they just get him killed? I think either the whole thing's a sham (at least the part about Eomer) or else maybe Fea is indeed some weird sort of seer/ranger combo. (Which would explain why she said she's on all sides. Seer to find the baddies for the village and ranger to protect not only ordos, but to save the lovers from each other, savvy?)


Alternatively, I came to check the game while on break from work, hoping I'd get away from nasty stress. My headache is now worse.


EDIT: x'd with Eomer and Fea.

[Gwathagor]

I am the Ranger. I have protected Kitanna, Nogrod, and Aganzir. (No, I'm not going to tell you the fourth one.)

I explained here why I am convinced Fea is lying about Eomer.

With these two facts in mind, I see two possible explanations for the present state of affairs.

#1: Fea and Eomer are lying completely and he is not the Ranger.

#2: Fea and Eomer are only half-lying: there are two Rangers, one good and one evil, and Eomer is the evil Ranger.

Either way,


++Eomer


I am going to find some dinner and I won't be back for about four hours.

[Brinniel]

I have three theories about Fea and Eomer:

1) They are the two lovers. The only question about this is why would they play the gifted card now? But as Noggie stated, out of anyone in this game it is these two who could pull this off. They are some of the most manipulative players I know.

2) Fea and Eomer are two baddies able to communicate at Night, but aren't lovers...perhaps cobblers working together. Considering there were only two pairs of lovers to start with, this is possible.

3) Fea is a cobbler seer and dreamt of Eomer to discover he's a baddie too (but probably not a lover since she wouldn't want to expose him).

Originally Posted by Gwath

I am the Ranger. I have protected Kitanna, Nogrod, and Aganzir. (No, I'm not going to tell you the fourth one.)

*sigh* I know you're the ranger, Gwath. I was hoping our baddies wouldn't draw you out enough to reveal, but it seems we've reached a point where there's no other choice.

[Brinniel]

This a lot for everyone to chew on, and I admit I've been only skimming the thread in between classes. I'll read more thoroughly when I get back to my room.

I'm currently in the library and am about to leave for dinner. I'll be back to post more sometime within the hour.

[Nogrod]

Gwath: your argument was that you are convinced of the fact that Fea is lying about Eomer. But still you decided to vote for Eomer and not Fea???

Even if I myself don't actually believe in the two rangers theory (and I might be wrong with that) I would have considered the possibility that Eomer is indeed a ranger as well and thence - and looking at the way he has reacted to the revealments - I'd say he looks more innocent than Fea.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Well obviously Brinniel's the real seer and I'm just faking it.

++Brinniel

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Even if I myself don't actually believe in the two rangers theory (and I might be wrong with that) I would have considered the possibility that Eomer is indeed a ranger as well and thence - and looking at the way he has reacted to the revealments - I'd say he looks more innocent than Fea.

No, Eomer is no more innocent than Fea. Because if he were telling the truth, there would be three rangers.

Alright since I've been making hints for some time now and its basically out in the open, I suppose I should clarify. This is what I know:

Innocent:
Nogrod
Shasta
Gwath
Brinn

Don't Know:
Sally
Gollum
Groin

Baddie of Some Sort:
Fea
Eomer

That narrows things down quite a bit.

To be more specific...

On Night 1, I dreamt of Mac. I chose him because I remembered how sneaky he's been in past games, so I wanted to know whether I could trust him.

On Night 2, I dreamt of Nogrod. It was a last minute decision and I almost chose Fea, but decided it'd be safer to dream of someone I was more on the fence about in case I was wrong about my suspicions of her. Nogrod is innocent. And I'm glad to know I can trust him since we do tend to agree on a lot. Though now that we're in this mess, I rather wish I had chosen Fea instead.

On Night 3, I dreamt of Shasta. He was one of my suspects at the time and I was tired of wondering about him, so I chose him. Shasta is innocent.

Last Night, I dreamt of Gwath. My main reason for choosing him was because he kept falling under my radar. And I discovered that he's the ranger. At the time, I was a bit disappointed I still hadn't caught a lover, but now I'm glad to know Gwath's identity because I know not to believe Eomer.

There's really no need for me to reveal who I've protected. All you need to know is that I've done quite the inadequate job compared to Gwath who has spared us two kills. Good work, mate.

I've also known all along that there were only two pairs of lovers, but lovers aren't the only evil ones around. This is what Di informed me:

Your goal is to protect ordinary mortals from the spirits of the dead who have possessed some from among you, and are out for blood. Two sets of star crossed Lovers from beyond the grave have returned. There are also mischievous immortals afoot. This information has come to you in a dream, and marks you as special among the mortals, so be careful how much knowledge you reveal.

"Mischievous immortals" is what she said. That means there's more than one...perhaps some cobbler-like characters. But I'm not sure what the immortal part means...does it mean they cannot be killed? I don't know.

Anyways, that's why I suspect Eomer and Fea may not be lovers, but are simply distracting us. But I can't say that for sure. The whole 'immortal' thing is why I'm a bit hesitant to vote either of the two, but I'm willing to risk it if it's the only way for all of us to know for sure.

Now it's time for me to turn my attention back to the election. Things seem to be slow now, but I'll check back in little while.

So until I return,
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Watcher

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

And so it happens. Every time there's a gifted reveal.

++BRINNIEL

As for Gwath, I'm not sure. He already guessed that I was lying so he was obviously easily led by Brinniel. I'm not sure if he is evil but Brinniel clearly is.

Unless there's a truly devilish side to this game that no-one can guess. It's too late: I'm assuming there is good versus bad.

I'll spell it out for those villagers who are more confused by what is happening than I am:

I have revealed, and so has Fea. Judging by Brinniel's reaction, of pairing me and Fea, she sees us both as equal enemies. But either something too bizarre to figure out is going on (and no-one knows if Diamond has arranged this) or, most likely, Brinniel is evil

I think she might even be a cobbler-figure, because I can't see how she was in immediate danger. She sees that the village will have to (probably) make do with one known innocent tomorrow, rather than two, and she's sacrificing herself.

Actually, this makes perfect sense. I can't see why a lover Brinniel would do that because then it's game over for her and her lover in 2 days at most. Nevertheless, my vote stands, because it's too late for me and I must go to bed. Brinniel's very probably evil, and that's that. Apologies for the lack of structure in this post, but my thoughts evolve as I type (and I'm too tired to edit). I think the Lovers are still out there, and Brinn is covering for them. Maybe one is Gwath, I'm not certain.