Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[the phantom]

I won't pull a Legate 180.

Originally Posted by Eonwe

A new Downerism has been born!

I was going to say that!

In the future, if someone reverses their stance, it will be "Doing a Legate". Ha ha ha!

Hmm... What's something that I can do to turn my name into something cool like that?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Hmm... What's something that I can do to turn my name into something cool like that?

Hear ye, hear ye! The act of "filibustering" shalll henceforth be known as "doing a Phantom"!

[the phantom]

By the way, does anyone have a voting summary, including a list of those that did not vote?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Hear ye, hear ye! The act of "filibustering" shalll henceforth be known as "doing a Phantom"!

*cries*
My life now has meaning! I have something named after me.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Agan

You could for example deliberately help the wolves to win... Just an idea.

Not in this game of course.

I already promised I'd help you.

But why must I wait. Who knows when you'll be a WW again.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I already promised I'd help you.

But why must I wait. Who knows when you'll be a WW again.

Maybe you should put some pressure on the mods?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Agan

Maybe you should put some pressure on the mods?

I think I've already used all of my credit with them buying myself invincibility. Yeah- if I'm lynched or targeted at night nothing happens. The Moddesses thought it might be unfair, but they agreed to it in the end because it was historic. And they were drunk.

[Ilya]

Ok, so, someone wanted a summary:

The Reprehensible Representatives
Brinn...voted for Aganzir
Phantom...voted for Legate
Boro...voted for tp
Ilya...voted for Boro
Nogrod...voted for Ilya
Aganzir...voted for Brinn
Legate...voted for tp

The Crooked Constituents
Sally...voted for Legate
Kath...voted for Lommy
The Ka...voted for Boro
Morm...voted for Nogrod
Eonwe...voted for Greenie
Gwath...voted for Nogrod
Shasta...voted for Aganzir
Greenie...voted for Brinn
Lommy...voted for Ilya

The Notorious Nonvoters
Diamond
Gil
McCabber
Nerwen
Rune

Lemony Snicket, eat your heart out.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Hmm... What's something that I can do to turn my name into something cool like that?

You could for example deliberately help the wolves to win... Just an idea.

Not in this game of course.

[Boromir88]

I'm here and will read through what I've missed.

[mormegil]

I'm on post 336 and it seems that Lommy and Agan are going at it strongly. I find little merit in either arguement and feel that both are innocent. Lommy seems like Lommy, who generally exhibits behavior that I find suspicious and she is doing that right now which is innocent, if that makes sense. Lommy seems to find one or two targets and is convinced of herself to the point that she puts blinders on other possibilities. I think that is what she is doing here.

Agan, I just have the feeling of innocence and that her and Lommy are just at each others throats but really should shift focus elsewhere.

[mormegil]

Oh my... I had a few ideas that had made me wonder while I read through the thread earlier toDay but it seems they were ill-gotten. Like that I had a strong impression that after Lommy and I argued for the benefits of choosing a less known person as a representative there was a wave of points out of thin air made to suggest Ilya was also their choice for a rep but they just didn't act that way because she had been already elected. So they were basically going with the flow and trying to look like they thought similarly with the majority. I really had a kind of a parrot-feeling on that and that always sends the alarms ringing with me. But there was no such a large and unfounded thing to be found... except possibly Eonwë who posted a little after my vote.

He considered myself and Greenie as his representative and as a third option he gave...

I'm not sure if you get what I mean but that does look suspicious. Of all the people around here he picked the three of us (choosing Greenie btw.) but unlike myself or Lommy who had actually argued why Ilya should be chosen (or anyone whom we'd like to see more of and feel somewhat safe with) he just went with the flow with no explanation of why he thought she could be a good choice, like stating something obvious for a choice of a representative with the "Then there is...".

This made some sense to me and I think there is merit in this. I had to read it through twice to make sense of it but I could envision a wolf hanging out waiting for something like this and then slowing merging into the flow.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I was going to say that!

In the future, if someone reverses their stance, it will be "Doing a Legate". Ha ha ha!

Hmm... What's something that I can do to turn my name into something cool like that?

You can suddenly be humble and then we can all say that when humility strikes you just pulled a phantom

...jerk

Sorry I had to add that after him calling me a jerk.

[Brinniel]

Just checking in to say I'm finally here. But I've still got four pages to read. Thanks a lot guys.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm here too, but am also in the middle of rehearsal, so I'm reading, but not posting so much.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Boromir

I guess the question is, would it be a wise choice to lynch a representative?

Why wouldn't it? It makes at least as much sense as lynch a person that is not a representative. . . It is not like everybody have been trying to become a representative, infact they seem to have been elected quite at random, so there is no reason that a wolf should not be amongst them.

I have read most of what happened since I left, but I simply skipped some of Aganzir, Lommy and Legates posts. . . . It is too late for me to read through that massive posts.

[the phantom]

Well, when you remove the people from the village that I listed as "safe from my vote", you are left with-

Diamond18
Ilya
McCaber
Nerwen
Rune
Shasta
The Ka

Crap. I don't really want to vote for anyone. Day 1.

I suppose the most important thing here is avoiding a massive tie. We have a three-lynch going right now. We have four Reps left to vote. If we pick new people, that'll be a seven-lynch blood bath.

No. Not good.

Boro, Brin, Ilya- do not feel that I am pressuring you to vote for someone who has already been voted for. Feel free, for I will hold my vote till near the end and put someone ahead if there is a mass tie.

But if all of you decide to do the same thing then we're looking at chaos and possibly disasterous cross-posting votes in which we all vote for someone with one vote and end up with a three-lynch or something like that. Whatever we do, let's find a way to avoid that.

[Brinniel]

Phew, I just did some majorly fast reading. It's been a long Day (both here and RL)...

Just a quick response to Legate:

Originally Posted by Legate

Now, now. What the Republic of a nonsense is that? Agan posted two posts which contained about nothing, and she said plainly there that she posts little because she does not have time. She also said she won't probably have much time tomorrow. So, if you voted her to be a Rep in order to see her posting more - you are doing something illogical, aren't you? If you ever read her posts, for that's the only thing I could think of as logical reason for that.

To see her posting more was only one of the reasons I voted her...the main reason I chose her was because I think she can have good judgement if innocent. And did she really not have time to post today? I think she posted plenty...

I still need to share my thoughts of everyone from what I've gathered so far...or at least what I've managed to gather. So much info in so little time is making my head explode.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Diamond18 will no longer be participating in this game. She was an ordinary villager and will be written out respectfully.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

To see her posting more was only one of the reasons I voted her...the main reason I chose her was because I think she can have good judgement if innocent. And did she really not have time to post today? I think she posted plenty...

I still need to share my thoughts of everyone from what I've gathered so far...or at least what I've managed to gather. So much info in so little time is making my head explode.

What and odd reason that is. . .I don't know if it speaks of innocens or wolfishness, but odd it is.

You are right that Aganzir posted plenty, infact she posted so much that it could seem like unauthorized filibustering.

Anyways I shall go to sleep now. . . . I will see you on election day. (if you dare)

[Brinniel]

Aganzir: Nothing about her rings any alarms. Is it just me or does seem she and Lommy always fight in WW games together? Anyway, whatever's between them, I think it's ordo-on-ordo.

Boromir88: Hard to say. I think he's been posting wisely and while part of me feels inclined to trust him, another part of me is not so sure.

Eönwë: Has sort of fallen under my radar. In other words, I have no idea.

Gil-Galad: His confusion makes me think he's more likely innocent. I think were he a wolf, he would've taken time to at least glance at the rules.

Greenie: Not sure. I always have trouble trusting her.

Gwathagor: Hasn't really said enough for me to get a clear opinion on him.

Ilya: Is a player I'm not familiar with. She doesn't ring any alarms yet, but since I don't know her playing style at all, I'd like to keep an eye on her.

Legate: I agree he's acting a bit odd. His flip flop on tp was weird and he seems a bit too eager with power.

Lommy: see Aganzir

Kath: I need to hear more from her.

McCaber: Seems to be laying low.

mormegil: As of now, I have no idea. But I admit each time I play with him, he scares me.

Nerwen: Also needs to post more.

Nogrod: I admittingly keep skimming through his posts because they're so lengthy (along with a few other players). I tend to agree with him too much, but I can never get myself to trust him.

Rune: Is too focused on voting reps. Perhaps it's hard to find suspects in this early stage, but if you can find someone innocentish, surely you could also share something that seems slightly suspicious to you..

Sally: Is her usual happy-go-lucky self.

Shasta: Hasn't rang any alarms yet, but as of now I don't have any idea.

The Ka: Has posted substance, but still seems uninvolved. Something about Ka feels odd....just a gut feeling there.

the phantom: At 85 posts in one Day, he's reached an aggressive stage of CPD. Truly, tp always remains a mystery to me. Right now I don't see any reason to suspect, but if I do in the future I might not hesitate to vote for him. Because I did before and he turned out to be a wolf...

So...

Slightly Suspicious
Legate
McCaber
Ka

No Clue
Boromir
Eonwe
Greenie
Gwath
Ilya
Kath
morm
Nerwen
Nogrod
Rune
Shasta
phantom

Innocentish
Aganzir
Gil-Galad
Lommy
Sally

Gah, I have way too many people in my "no clue" section, and the ones in my suspicious list I'm not even that strongly suspicious of. Oh, how I hate Day Ones.

EDIT: X-ed with Ilya and Boro

[Boromir88]

Why wouldn't it? It makes at least as much sense as lynch a person that is not a representative. . . It is not like everybody have been trying to become a representative, infact they seem to have been elected quite at random, so there is no reason that a wolf should not be amongst them.~Rune

True. I was more just trying to look at some options here. Statistically speaking there is at least one wolf who is a representative, but the same would hold true for the non-representatives. There may be a greater probability of getting a wolf from the group of non-representatives. So, either way I look at it, it looks like a crap shoot and I'm just trying to figure out which way will give I get the best odds.

Edit: crossed with Brinn, and just X'out the word "give" in the last sentence...ya that was tiredness slipping in.