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Old 12-04-2008, 12:11 PM   #1
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Frodo was the big favourite ahead of this match but the voting was much closer than expected. In the end the final vote by the Phantom was decisive and since his choice was Beleg the Ringbearer is eliminated. Smell you later, Frodo!

He's been called the "Shylock" of Middle Earth and an "evil Dwarf". Next up is the match between the unsung hero and outsider Mim the Petty Dwarf, who comes face to face with none other than Sauron the Dark Lord, the greatest enemy of the free people in the second and third Age of Arda.

Mim the Petty Dwarf vs. Sauron
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:23 PM   #2
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Mim the Petty Dwarf vs. Sauron
++Sauron

Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:28 PM   #3
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++MIM

I am quite fond of his name
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:35 PM   #4
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++Mîm

He's a very misunderstood and interesting character whose purpose in the story was much more intriguing than Sauron's. Besides he's a dwarf.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:50 PM   #5
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Somehow with Mim and Sauron the Gilligan's Island
episode of Jack and the Beanstalk with "Gilligan"
running between the giant's legs comes to mind.

So, since petty dwarves "get no respect"

+ + Mim

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Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
I thought you should always vote for the lesser of two weevils?
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:48 PM   #6
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++ Sauron

Talking about the Sil Sauron now, of course - LotR Sauron is plain boring. Sauron is pretty cool in the Sil, whereas Mîm is one of those characters I have never especially liked. Of evil and slightly nasty, I choose the evil.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:03 PM   #7
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While I fancy Sauron (also, especially the Sil one... or more concretely, the "Gorlim" one; or then the "Pharazon" one), still, I became really fond of Mîm. And now thinking of it, aww, his tale is just so painfully sad - losing both of his sons in such a horrible way! (Not to mention him being the last of his kind.) No, actually, my favourite is clear! Pity wins.

++Mîm

I really wish he would win.

Oh, and, besides - he had a cool prophecy. Oh...
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:57 PM   #8
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Let us compare these two- Mim and Sauron.
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Mim- He has a chapter in a book named after him (Of Mim the Dwarf).

Sauron- One of the best selling books of all time is named after him (The Lord of the Rings).
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Mim- Brought about the destruction of a group of men living on a hill.

Sauron- Brought about the destruction of Numenor and Arnor.
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Mim- Responsible for the deaths of the men upon Amon Rhud.

Sauron- Responsible for the deaths of thousands, perhaps millions.
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Mim- Directly responsible for slaying... erm... probably a rabbit at least.

Sauron- Directly slew the High King of the Elves and the King of Gondor.
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Mim- Caused Turin to be captured.

Sauron- Caused Valinor to be removed from the world.
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Mim- Attempted to take over the empty halls of Nargothrond. Did not succeed. Stopped by an old man.

Sauron- Attempted to take over the world. Nearly succeeded. Stopped by Eru.
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Mim- Left behind no legacy.

Sauron- Without Sauron, no Tol-In-Gaurhoth. He will live on through our Werewolf games forever.
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Yeah... Take a wild guess at which way my vote is gonna go.

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Old 12-04-2008, 04:25 PM   #9
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Mim- Left behind no legacy.
Doesn't the fact that I voted for him leave a legacy?

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We see so much less of Beleg when compared to Frodo- pages and pages less. And yet in that little bit of time we have with him Beleg proves that he is an amazing person. If we had the exposure to him we have to Frodo, I think Beleg would win this contest quite easily.
and yet...

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Mim- He has a chapter in a book named after him (Of Mim the Dwarf).

Sauron- One of the best selling books of all time is named after him (The Lord of the Rings).
Odd contradiction here tummy. So you can vote for Beleg, which was a good choice, on the grounds that he made an impact in such a short segment and yet you use the same reasoning against Mim.
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