Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I can post the results now and end the day early, or I can wait- but the results will be late in that case, as I'm supposed to be leaving in a few minutes.

Preference?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Gil-Galad was an ordo.

Given his lack of participation, I feel no regret in not taking the time to write him a narrative death.

M'Lady Wolf, send me a death.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'm sorry! I got distracted.

Kath has died toNight. Everyone else is still alive.

Have at it.

Kath- my guilt shall not be assuaged until I give you an actual narration. Promise.

[Nerwen]

++No Filibuster.

Sorry, Fea.

EDIT: fixed highlight.

[Brinniel]

Okay, I'm reading through the thread once again, though this time I'm going through posts I haven't really looked through yet. I have my suspicions, but as it's our final decisive Day, I definitely don't want to settle for my current thoughts without doing more research as well as hearing from the rest of you.

More posts coming...

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Okay, I know I'm getting heated but this is just too much! You cannot say that to me. You're the one nit-picking and making mountains out of molehills all the time. I have no doubt it's wise to question about everything everyone says but when you do that, you can hardly blame anyone for making small issues sound bigger than they are.

This was from the Lommy/Aganzir battle. I said initially I thought this was ordo vs. ordo, and I still believe that. Lommy's frustrations here remind me of an innocent Lommy. She's had this argument before with Aganzir as an ordo.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Don't make me a rep, or I'll be tempted... *evil grin*

Originally Posted by Lommy

Btw, assuming that we two and Gil are innocent, we have a 66% chance of getting it right if we double-lynch two of the others. Tempting, isn't it? But then again, if we get it wrong...

Would a wolf openly express temptation towards a double lynch like this?

Originally Posted by Lommy

Lastly, I've been thinking... we shouldn't lynch tp or Boro toDay. However annoying they are. I suggest keeping an eye on them for they are acting mighty suspiciously, but I'd really rather keep them around for a while more (a Day or two) since there is nothing extremely serious against them and they will provide more and more evidence againt or for themselves as the game goes on. You may call me an elitist or a turncloak, I know - but I'd hate to lose players like them in vain. If they're innocent, they're a huge asset to the village.

That is, they would be a huge asset if they weren't such a distraction. I therefore suggest (or to phrase better, echo the earlier suggestions) that we should stop focuing on them like this. And that "we" means all of us, even the gentlemen themselves. We're assisting the wolves by this single-mindedness, especially if Boro and tp are innocent.

I think it was Lommy who initially brought up the idea that we should lynch Boro or tp. The fact that she brought it up seems pretty innocent to me. Those two were heavily suspected that Day, and I just can't see why a wolf would not take advantage of getting at least one lynched.

Originally Posted by Lommy

++THE Ka

That's the closest I can get to a reasonable vote toDay. She's a submarine the likes of which we can't really afford, and like I've said, she tnds to have more serious stuff to say when she's innocent.

A wolf-on-wolf vote is possible here, but I don't think it's likely. Ka was sliding under the radar and Lommy's vote helped bring attention to her.

Originally Posted by Lommy

I wish I had so much time that I could go through everybody's rep votes... I think that'd reveal something: I doubt the wolves voted people who were strongly after their fellows to be reps...

That's a good point. I should go back to my voting list and check that out.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Or what if we take it by chance? Like, decide that one of us is an even number and one of us is an odd number. Then, let's take some number we don't know (say, exact size of Portugal in square kilometers, or how many hits do you get by googling some word, or how many posts 'downer x has or so on) and check what's it. If it's an even number, the one who's even number has to vote first, if it's an odd number, the one who's odd number has to vote first. Makes sense?

Lommy, sometimes I wonder how your brain works. You make things so much more complicated than they really are.

Originally Posted by Lommy

1) important: vote against a filibuster just to be on the safe side

Good point. I had actually forgotten about the whole filibuster thing until you mentioned it. And so I don't forget again:

++No Filibuster

Poor Fea never got her filibuster. Now she will kill us all.

[Nerwen]

Okay, it's down to

Brinn
Lommy
Greenie
Nerwen.

And we have to get the wolf toDay (obviously.) So yes, we may as well do a double-lynch.

Problem is, it seems I'm one of the lynch-candidates. That won't matter, of course, if the other one is the wolf.

However, from my point of view it would give us a better chance if one of the lynchees wasn't someone I know to be innocent, i.e. me.

So I've got a dilemma: should I defend myself or not? If I convince you of my innocence it will help the village... but then if we concentrate on me all Day it won't.

X'd with with Brinn.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Honestly, this ploy stuff is getting on my nerves. I don't like a situation where a few players can basically turn away every suspicion concerning their weird behaviour saying "Oh, that was a ploy, but of course you are too silly to understand advanced WW-playing. *sigh*"

I can understand her frustrations here, as it was something that I shared too.

Originally Posted by Greenie

I am as well. This will be my last toDay. But, for what it's worth, I'll vote

++ lynch the phantom

I think I have already stated enough reasons for my choice.

Obviously just because she voted for tp doesn't mean she's a wolf, as many suspected him including myself. Of course because of the heavy suspicion, it'd be easy for a wolf to jump on the bandwagon. Though Noggie and morm already did this...would a third wolf join in?

Originally Posted by Greenie

Nog - calm down, will you? No need to get heated. Please if you think/know those two are wrong then give us some logical proof. Prove their arguments wrong and I'll be sure to reconsider. As long as your theory has flaws such as the morm thing Gwath already pointed out, I can't take it seriously.

This is an interesting interaction here...and a bit weird. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Three quotes...really? Is that all I could find out of Greenie worth commenting? You see, that's the trouble...she always flies under my radar and I find that incredibly frustrating. It shouldn't be like that, especially when there are only four players left.

[A Little Green]

Argh, if this isn't nerve-wrecking. Double lynch sounds like a very good idea as this is the last Day we have anyway. I've been thinking about the reps. It's vital that everyone votes because otherwise we'll only get one rep which in turn makes the double lynch impossible. (It's possible of course to get the wolf by a single lynch but why gamble?) Also, we should reach consensus about who we want as our reps or preferably who we want to lynch before the rep-voting so as to avoid unwanted situations (ie. the person who is most suspected being a rep etc.).

The wolf is either Brinn, Lommy or Nerwen. I'm still quite confident that Lommy is innocent. That leaves Brinn and Nerwen. Hmmm...

I'd want Lommy as rep since she's the only one I'm somewhat sure is innocent.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I agree, nonetheless (forgot to include this in my last post) that it's rather peculiar that Aganzir got in this time, when I believe she's only made one post.

I don't know what was so strange about that. Why shouldn't someone who only made a couple posts get voted as a rep? And I think on Day 1, several players were voted for based on their reputation rather than simply what they had posted.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

*applauds*

I'm thoroughly enjoying the Gil-Shasta double-act. Pure comedy gold.

Nerwen wasn't the only one who expressed amusement towards the whole Gil/Shasta thing. I just can't understand why people found it so amusing. I don't believe there was much to think about when it came to their interactions.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Can we assume that Gil's out? His confusion looks pretty genuine to me (however, I haven't played with him much).

This is a comment that stood out as strange to me. It feels that she's a bit eager to know whether he's out of the game. If she's innocent and assumes Gil is too, I would think she'd want him to stay in the game. Especially when it was only Day 1.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, that was predictable.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Boro and phantom... yes, I guessed what you were up to, though I was a bit slow on the uptake.

These comments strike me as odd. It feels like she's trying really hard to keep up with Boro and tp, and stay on their good side.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Firstly– R.I.P. Shasta! And nice work from our reps...

This is another reaction that seems fabricated to me.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No, no, hang around. We can always lynch you if we get stuck.

The second sentence is the one I find weird. Saying that he shouldn't drop out only because he's useful in numbers, whether he votes or not. The problem I have here is why not encourage him to actually participate rather than tell him to stick around so we can lynch him "just in case"?