Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Well, after Nighttime, I'd say that the only thing that really surprises me is the number of kills.

Out of curiosity, why aren't you surprised of Boro's death?

Originally Posted by Bowie

Anyhow:I don't think Menel's attack on you is unwarranted, Agan, but both of you be careful, and try not to get into a Wine in Front of Me scenario. (from The Princess Bride. If you need an explanation, just ask me.)

Well I do, but then again every time I'm accused while innocent, the reasons feel bad. And since the knowledge of my own innocence is usually all I have, I can start working from that basis. You never know when the one accusing you is in fact a wolf who needs to accuse innocents to ensure their own survival.
Also, I need an explanation.

I find it pretty awkward that deadline is in four hours and there has been nine posts from six people, three of whom just checking in.

edit: ooh xed with sally

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I find it pretty awkward that deadline is in four hours and there has been nine posts from six people, three of whom just checking in.

edit: ooh xed with sally

Yeah, that worries me too.


Okay, Boro's death. Who would kill Boro? Agan, you're here, what are your thoughts my furry -erm, funny- little friend?

[satansaloser2005]

Extremely quick thoughts, basically Boro-centric.

Aganzir: She might try to pull a bluff, but I think she would keep Boro around as long as possible.
Boromir88: He did it! A frame job, indeed!
Eonwe: It's....possible, I suppose.
Gwathagor: After last game, I think he would see the value of keeping Boro around, but if they're on opposite sides it would point to the opposite conclusion. I'd consider it, and since Boro's a fair opponent I would think Gwath's more than intelligent enough to get him out of the way as soon as he can.
Ilya, Izzy, Kath, and Menel: No idea. It's very possible that any of them could have killed him but I don't know.
Nogrod: Unless it's some sort of screwy mind game, no. Noggie would almost definitely want Boro to stick around, for entertainment value if nothing else.
Sally: Erm, I didn't do it. Duh.
Shasta: I know a few games ago he was a bit cross with Boro, so if he needed a night kill I think he may have chosen Boro first. Not to say that he's holding a grudge, but if your first night kill is someone you don't want to play with I would think Boro would be on Shasta's list.
Strongbow: Maybe random, but I don't think he'd have a specific reason to kill Boro. All in all Bowie may be our best bet, as he's not played with Boro before.


Point is, either Boro's death was random, a bluff, or a deliberate kill because of how Boro plays. Great. That tells us nothing.

[Strongbow]

Okay, Wine in Front of Me is a logical fallacy, and is a situation of circular reasoning which wears out both parties involved. I'm going to paraphrase the situation (forgive me William Goldman/Rob Reiner):

The Man in Black has reached his third enemy (after defeating the blademaster Inigo Montoya and the Turkish strongman Fezzik), the evil Sicilian Vizzini, who has captured the Princess Buttercup. Vizzini has set up a picnic for TMiB, presumably to negotiate a price for the Princess. TMiB proposes another solution: he will poison one of the glasses, and Vizzini must choose which glass he will. Whoever lives gets Buttercup. Whoever dies...dies. Vizzini shifts in between faulty logic, eventually overthinking his predicament, and he begins to choose the wine in front of him, but then forces TMiB to look the other way, as he switches the glasses. After they drink, Vizzini laughs hysterically, revealing his deception. That is, until he drops dead. TMiB spent years building up a tolerance to the poison, and therefore he poisoned both glasses.

Moral of the story: don't overthink, Agan and Menel.

I know I'm x-ing with Agan, so I'm just going to say that if we had a descriptive death post, we might know how Boro was killed.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Okay, Wine in Front of Me is a logical fallacy, and is a situation of circular reasoning which wears out both parties involved. I'm going to paraphrase the situation (forgive me William Goldman/Rob Reiner):

The Man in Black has reached his third enemy (after defeating the blademaster Inigo Montoya and the Turkish strongman Fezzik), the evil Sicilian Vizzini, who has captured the Princess Buttercup. Vizzini has set up a picnic for TMiB, presumably to negotiate a price for the Princess. TMiB proposes another solution: he will poison one of the glasses, and Vizzini must choose which glass he will. Whoever lives gets Buttercup. Whoever dies...dies. Vizzini shifts in between faulty logic, eventually overthinking his predicament, and he begins to choose the wine in front of him, but then forces TMiB to look the other way, as he switches the glasses. After they drink, Vizzini laughs hysterically, revealing his deception. That is, until he drops dead. TMiB spent years building up a tolerance to the poison, and therefore he poisoned both glasses.

Moral of the story: don't overthink, Agan and Menel.

Moral of the story: Rocks fall, everybody (but Bowie) dies from lack of making Princess Bride references.

Bowie, if you did kill Boro, you made a mistake. If nothing else you always keep Boro around for the fun quotes.


Going to work in about an hour, and I don't think I want to risk getting on the internet there, so we'll see how I feel like voting then. I suppose it would help you all get a better read on me if I made a bit of a suspicion list, so I'll see what I can do, savvy?

[Aganzir]

Yeah sally I would most definitely keep Boro around longer, especially in this quiet a village.

I just find it pretty hard to see he was killed as a bluff. I think Nog's the only one who even could bluff by killing Boro, and he wouldn't do it this early. Unless maybe if he was like totally convinced Boro was the seer, which I don't think was possible.

Still, I wouldn't exclude the possibility he was considered the seer...

Anyway I'm not sure how much it helps that we discuss Boro's death over and over again. Well in lack of anything else...

[Aganzir]

I don't know why and I can't put my finger on it, but sally makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Somehow she reminds me of the cobbler-sally I've seen... But then again she's quite involved now which I don't think cobbler-sally was.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I don't know why and I can't put my finger on it, but sally makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Somehow she reminds me of the cobbler-sally I've seen... But then again she's quite involved now which I don't think cobbler-sally was.

Well if it helps this is probably one of the last posts I'll make toDay. I felt guilty about not knowing the game was on yesterDay so I decided to have a posting party before I went to work.


Problem is, I don't know who to vote for. Everyone's either quiet or not that suspicious. Very frustrating.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I don't know why and I can't put my finger on it, but sally makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. Somehow she reminds me of the cobbler-sally I've seen... But then again she's quite involved now which I don't think cobbler-sally was.

P.S. There's not a cobbler in this game, is there?

(Sorry, I need to reread the admin thread because the game's not really explained all in one post, so I think I've missed a lot.)

[Aganzir]

Nope there's no cobbler unless it wasn't mentioned in the rules.

[satansaloser2005]

Wait, I don't think Menel would have killed Boro either. I remember him making a comment on the admin thread that he missed playing with him. Or something along those lines. Again, could be a bluff in-game, but I don't think so.


(Sorry, my mom called, so I'll just submit this and then get back to things and see what, if anything, I've missed.)


EDIT: x'd with Miss Agan. Thanks for clearing that up, love. Didn't think there was one, but I figured I'd missed it.

[Strongbow]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Out of curiosity, why aren't you surprised of Boro's death?

Because I wouldn't be surprised if any of us had died. I was honestly dreading my own death, for a while.

[Aganzir]

But werewolf is all about thinking and overthinking.