Tol-in-Gaurhoth LIV: The Council of Evil

[Eönwë]

Sorry about not being here properly yesterDay. My internet died while I did have time, and then I had to go due to family-RL stuff.

I'll look at the posts so far... (not very many since I last posted, it seems)

[Kath]

I understand those inexplainable feelings Agan and it is difficult to concentrate on others when you have those bad feelings, but even if sally is a wolf she is only one of two. Given that I don't think she's a wolf it would make me feel better about you if you could maybe look at some other people, or even how others have interacted with sally to try and find evidence for her possible wolvishness that way. I'm sorry I don't meant to throw instructions at you but like you said you are one of our remaining loud players and we need you!

I missed Gwath's post earlier and reading it through just now it does seem a little odd. I agree that if either the wolves or the bear is actually failing to kill then it is more likely to be the bear as I doubt both wolves are missing in action. However, from what I know of the werebear role it has the choice of whether to kill or not so I don't think that the lack of kills on that front point to an absent player. In addition I would actually think that the bear is an experienced player who actually wants to win as the bear. A lot of the time evil creatures get caught in these games via the Nightly kills, an experienced player would know that and might be letting the wolves do all the work in the hope that they get caught and then the bear can just walk off with the victory.

[Strongbow]

Well, here's my piece (and my 100th post!):

I am suspect because I know how people act, and I said I was suspicious of Boro early on, which leads some to believe that my partner might be one of our absentees. Well, to prove my innocence, I'm willing to vote for myself in the event that more suspicion falls on me. Wolf gambit? You decide. If I do end up being lynched, please write me a good suicide scene Gollum.

Before I move on, I'd like to say that in my experience, the posting fillerish things without contributing to discussion is a tactic used by the enemy, to say "Oh! I'm active, don't kill me! I'm active, so I must be innocent!" Because of the general lack of substance, I can't tell if this is just being idle, or being sinister. I do not post just for the sake of posting. I post to make serious analysis. If this reduces my overall post count, so be it.

Agan, in her last post, tries to validate herself by saying that she has double everyone else's posts, when I feel that a few of those are not entirely necessary. This being said, I'm not feeling with overt strength that she's furry, but I'm not neglecting the possibility.

Sally isn't very much better. I don't really see the use in posting vote counts at this stage, because of the general lack of votes. I can't be sure if it's a ploy to legitimize yourself, but I'm not going to point any fingers until I see more...anything, really.

Gwath's post doesn't add anything very earth shattering, and doesn't really pique my curiosity.

Kath is starting to get reception, but I can't get a reading.

Menel, are you there? You post little, and when you do, it isn't much. Hmmm...

Eonwe is my kin, but isn't saying anything worthy of note. Yet.

Isabell and Shasta are obviously off our radar.

Edited for format.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

Well, here's my piece (and my 100th post!):

I am suspect because I know how people act, and I said I was suspicious of Boro early on, which leads some to believe that my partner might be one of our absentees. Well, to prove my innocence, I'm willing to vote for myself in the event that more suspicion falls on me. Wolf gambit? You decide.

Aah I hate stuff like this, because it forces other players to take you on faith. In no way does it "prove" your innocence and I'm pretty sure that even in a game like this, where nothing is certain, you could come up with more substantial evidence or support of your innocence.

[Strongbow]

Sure it does. If I am dead, my alignment is revealed.

[Gwathagor]

And at which point, the firm proof of your alignment will be of no use to you in your efforts to establish your innocence.

[Strongbow]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

And at which point, the firm proof of your alignment will be of no use to you in your efforts to establish your innocence.

And you realize your mistake in killing me in the first place. I think it very poor taste not to take my threat seriously.

As you said, nothing is certain, and it is virtually impossible for anyone to prove their innocence.

Edit: Except in death, my friend.

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Strongbow

And you realize your mistake in killing me in the first place. I think it very poor taste not to take my threat seriously.

As you said, nothing is certain, and it is virtually impossible for anyone to prove their innocence.

If I did not take your threat seriously, I would have paid it no attention. It is indeed impossible to prove anything absolutely, but it is possible to establish varying levels of likelihood. This is preferable to gambling, and asking players to take you on faith isn't really very expedient, particularly if you are just going to kill yourself when they don't believe you. In that situation, nobody wins.